Ford Fiesta RS WRC

AndyRAC basically, I agree with all that you say. Secondly, there are some issues as well... http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/racin...ally-cars.aspx

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Originally Posted by ste898

The most stupid idea is that the new WRC caes are going to have the driver aids again ie paddle shift etc......
Which idiot gave the idea for this?

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According to Mr C the FIA rubber stamped the paddle shifts etc! Nice work from Mr Todt. All those years at Ferrari have obviously affected his idea of cost cutting. What we need now is Sarsons not 15 year aged Modena Balsamic.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Get rid of electronics and all money costing equipment. Can't we have cheap, spectacular cars, that will attract new Manufacturers?
And why still 4WD? 2WD with more power than grip, is what is needed.

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I agree that cheaper WRC cars are important, but 2wd is a terrible idea. World rally cars are supposed to be about going fast, not sliding around and setting slower times than PWRC cars. If you just want to see that stuff, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms .

I'd rather they cut costs by making the world rally cars a little closer to the production versions that they come from. Currently Ford and Citroen just build race cars to look like a production vehicle. There is basically nothing left of the C4 or Focus in those cars, so it's a bit ridiculous that they beat subaru and mitsubishi, who at least sold road-going rally cars.

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Originally Posted by serial jeff

I agree that cheaper WRC cars are important, but 2wd is a terrible idea. World rally cars are supposed to be about going fast, not sliding around and setting slower times than PWRC cars. If you just want to see that stuff, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms .

I'd rather they cut costs by making the world rally cars a little closer to the production versions that they come from. Currently Ford and Citroen just build race cars to look like a production vehicle. There is basically nothing left of the C4 or Focus in those cars, so it's a bit ridiculous that they beat subaru and mitsubishi, who at least sold road-going rally cars.

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Simple, either ban 4WD - or make the 4WD PWRC cars slower. In fact, just get rid of the PWRC - it's a worthless Championship!
The majority of road cars are 2WD - the majority of motorsport is RWD, so why stick with 4WD? It's proved it's point.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Simple, either ban 4WD - or make the 4WD PWRC cars slower. In fact, just get rid of the PWRC - it's a worthless Championship!
The majority of road cars are 2WD - the majority of motorsport is RWD, so why stick with 4WD? It's proved it's point.

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That will be good in tarmac rally, not on gravel.

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Originally Posted by serial jeff

World rally cars are supposed to be about going fast, not sliding around.

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Which is why we have been discussing the diminishing spectacle for the last few years...

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Originally Posted by serial jeff

I agree that cheaper WRC cars are important, but 2wd is a terrible idea. World rally cars are supposed to be about going fast, not sliding around and setting slower times than PWRC cars. If you just want to see that stuff, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs-jAImScms .

I'd rather they cut costs by making the world rally cars a little closer to the production versions that they come from. Currently Ford and Citroen just build race cars to look like a production vehicle. There is basically nothing left of the C4 or Focus in those cars, so it's a bit ridiculous that they beat subaru and mitsubishi, who at least sold road-going rally cars.

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Gif all the drivers a serial car and we will see who is the best driver! :p :
Maybe the WRC class would be cheaper and better with the current s2000 cars. ;)

Why not just make break the championship into 3 classes.
FWD/RWD and 4WD.
Minimal changes to each from the road car.
Big ass exhaust for plenty of noise.


Based strictly on production models.

In rwd, you could have porsche GT3's up against BMW M3's.

FWD could encompass anything from turbo minis to focus rs's.

In 4wd, you could have imprezas up against audi r8's.

Put a bit of variety back into it, and reduce the costs.

Building special purpose built rally cars like wrc's and s2000's has killed the variety and the show, and a 300k s2000/wrc car is just a dumb idea.

Get back to production like machine to keep the costs and the fans interest in the game. Allow big boost and big exhaust for lots of power and noise.

It's not hard to make a road car spectacular.

That video doing the rounds of delacour in the gt3 shows how spectacular such a formula would be.

You'd have a rally spec 911 gt3 for about half the price of a WRC car - I know which one would be more spectacular.

Video - Ford Fiesta RS WRC development http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpjNQk8mxc4

Anybody know any specific technical regulations for next years engine. Meaning size of restrictor possible boost limits etc.?