What is wrong with some people? A story from Uganda

"Save the Monkey" This law comes from the environmentalists :laugh: :laugh:

Lets see uhmmmmm How many people have they killed in Uganda in the last 10yrs?? Probably need to know chinese arithmetic to solve this question.

Disgusting country needs aid and supervision from the EU. So what is the hold up???

I would argue that a certain amount of humans are gay because they choose to be, DNA be damned. The perspective of being comfortable in your own sexuality has nothing to do with governmental and religious bias against homosexuality. The government doesn't care if you like gays or don't like gays any more than they care about you being upset about their expenses. At this time, AIDS is largely considered a disease spawned and spread by the homosexual community. AIDS costs the government a lot of money, taxpayer money. In addition, homosexuality does not generate any new taxpayers. They will take the noble stand of saying their actions are to protect the population and their culture over the long term. In a sense, they are correct. As for me, I could give a rat's ass one way or another. However, being a renegade and running outside or against the established norms has always carried the price of the denial of certain benefits through the bias born of distrust, distaste, or fear. Like the individual, society also has certain rights. Ex-felons have trouble getting jobs, a small herd of scruffy bikers gets turned away from a motel although none are wearing colors, all prices paid for bucking the system.

If you check around on some other nations you'll find a general lack of tolerance.

Beyond that, Uganda, like many countries in that part of the world, are not famous for making sound political policies.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

You have just embarrassed yourself with that last paragraph.

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I fail to see how I have embarrassed myself. Did I say something untruthful?

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

I fail to see how I have embarrassed myself. Did I say something untruthful?

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You are trying to claim that people choose their sexuality which is untrue.

You clearly know nothing about about this subject and I find it scary that people that have this lack of knowledge are allowed to vote on laws that effect the lives of real people.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

You are trying to claim that people choose their sexuality which is untrue.

You clearly know nothing about about this subject and I find it scary that people that have this lack of knowledge are allowed to vote on laws that effect the lives of real people.

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If look again closely, you will see that I think some, not all, have freely chosen homosexuality.

Are you prepared to state, as complete fact, that every person involved in homosexual activity has been forced into it by genetic defect alone and none participate through free will choice?

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

If look again closely, you will see that I think some, not all, have freely chosen homosexuality.

Are you prepared to state, as complete fact, that every person involved in homosexual activity has been forced into it by genetic defect alone and none participate through free will choice?

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I think it is far more common for a homosexual to choose a heterosexual lifestyle because of pressure from society to live a straight life, rather than the other way.

And saying that some people have chosen to have gay sex doesn't stop your earlier comment that homosexuality is 'unnatural' being untrue.

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

I would argue that a certain amount of humans are gay because they choose to be, DNA be damned. The perspective of being comfortable in your own sexuality has nothing to do with governmental and religious bias against homosexuality. The government doesn't care if you like gays or don't like gays any more than they care about you being upset about their expenses. At this time, AIDS is largely considered a disease spawned and spread by the homosexual community. AIDS costs the government a lot of money, taxpayer money. In addition, homosexuality does not generate any new taxpayers. They will take the noble stand of saying their actions are to protect the population and their culture over the long term. In a sense, they are correct. As for me, I could give a rat's ass one way or another. However, being a renegade and running outside or against the established norms has always carried the price of the denial of certain benefits through the bias born of distrust, distaste, or fear. Like the individual, society also has certain rights. Ex-felons have trouble getting jobs, a small herd of scruffy bikers gets turned away from a motel although none are wearing colors, all prices paid for bucking the system.

If you check around on some other nations you'll find a general lack of tolerance.

Beyond that, Uganda, like many countries in that part of the world, are not famous for making sound political policies.

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OMG, you've actually said that some homosexuals choose it to be rebels, like being a criminal or a motorcycle gang member, just to be different?!?!

and that they are mainly responsible for the spread of AIDS? (never mind a complete lack of sex education in large portions of Africa and a religious upbringing that does not allow the use of contraceptives)

i consider your views some of the worst reasoned and most backward i have ever had the misfortune to read, i am actually apalled

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

If look again closely, you will see that I think some, not all, have freely chosen homosexuality.

Are you prepared to state, as complete fact, that every person involved in homosexual activity has been forced into it by genetic defect alone and none participate through free will choice?

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how about every personwho is a Homosexual is born into it and has no choice, no matter how much they might have fought it. some people who are incredibly open sexually and seek gratification in any way possmight engage in both hetero and homosexual activity, but are not actually gay - they may choose that lifestyle but no-one who is soley homosexual chooses that route to be different. you can choose religon, you can choose your job (to some extent), you can choose your car or where to live, or your football team. You don't choose to be gay. if you are, you might choose to be open, accept it and be happy with your life, in the face of extreme prejudice, but your can't choose the urges that govern your sexuality

@Fiero 5.7

Out of interest: A) Where in the US are you from?
B) Religious?
C) Do you actually know any gay people?

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@Fiero 5.7

Out of interest: A) Where in the US are you from?
B) Religious?
C) Do you actually know any gay people?

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This started as a question about the Ugandan Government policy, of which I attempted to provide an answer. Somehow, this has been turned into an issue of my personal beliefs. For the record:

I don't give a rat's ass if somebody is gay or not. It does not affect the quaility of my life one way or another.

A) Texas

B) No

C) Yes I do.

Uganda, the same culture that brought you the British trained Idi Amin, is free to do anything they want as a matter of national policy. If you object to their policies, I'd suggest you not visit Uganda.