Kia Cerato Koup - Shock Horror!

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

Well , at least Korean cars now look like Japanese cars of today rather than Japanese cars of 10 years ago.

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Yes but they're still dull, characterless pieces of crapola.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

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Have I gone totally insane, or have Kia made a car that a) doesn't make me want to vomit profusely all over the place and b) actually might like to have (not buy, just have).

For years we've suffered with the Korean Insect Assembly's (I think that's what Kia stands for), poorly made crud on the road. Why the hell they'd take pride in their car of that name was totally beyond me.

Is this the car that says that they may have made it as a legitimate car company?

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This is just typical British stuff, you guys are just so prejudice when it comes to cars. Kia and Hyundai have made proper cars for years now. For example Kia cee'd is moore roomy, quieter, and has better diesel engines than, for example, Ford Focus. The badge thing is just so strong in the UK. Hyundai/Kia are totally legit, they are the 4th largest auto manufacturer in the world, with booming sales despite the recession. Come to think of it, my next car might well be a Kia, and over here, it's not a reflection of anything.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

This is just typical British stuff, you guys are just so prejudice when it comes to cars. Kia and Hyundai have made proper cars for years now. For example Kia cee'd is moore roomy, quieter, and has better diesel engines than, for example, Ford Focus. The badge thing is just so strong in the UK. Hyundai/Kia are totally legit, they are the 4th largest auto manufacturer in the world, with booming sales despite the recession.

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No doubt that the reliability of Korean cars has improved but they still lack the flair of European designed cars. Even Japanese cars are guilty of this most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

No doubt that the reliability of Korean cars has improved but they still lack the flair of European designed cars. Even Japanese cars are guilty of this most of the time.

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I don't know, Peter Schreyer is the head of design office at Kia, and he is the man responsible for many Audis, including the TT. And by the way, many Kias are designed in Germany and manufactured in Slovakia. They aren't BMWs but they are definitely a company that's going places.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

This is just typical British stuff, you guys are just so prejudice when it comes to cars. Kia and Hyundai have made proper cars for years now. For example Kia cee'd is moore roomy, quieter, and has better diesel engines than, for example, Ford Focus. The badge thing is just so strong in the UK. Hyundai/Kia are totally legit, they are the 4th largest auto manufacturer in the world, with booming sales despite the recession. Come to think of it, my next car might well be a Kia, and over here, it's not a relection of anything.

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I have to agree. Kia is building the best cars in the world now for value for money. Not even Toyota can touch them anymore. My wife is on her second Kia now, and last month I ordered the new Koup for her for delivery early next year which will be her third Kia in three years. She prefers Kia's to what she used to drive, VW Golf's! which are supposed to be the benchmark in the C segment car division.

People with d!@ks bigger than a Tic-Tac look past the snobby badge images of traditional manufacturers and see great cars at the right prices.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

I don't know, Peter Schreyer is the head of design office at Kia, and he is the man responsible for many Audis, including the TT. And by the way, many Kias are designed in Germany and manufactured in Slovakia. They aren't BMWs but they are definitely a company that's going places.

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Indeed. Look at what Japan was producing 30 years ago. Now they have the largest auto maker in Toyota, they have bulletproof Honda's, Lexus etc etc. Korea is the new Japan.

Producing reliable and value for money cars is very good but they still don't have same flair or class as European cars of a similar size.

My fridge freezer was value for money and reliable, but that doesn't make it exciting.

Exactly Jon, the Koreans couldn't make something as classy or stylish as your Grande Punto.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Exactly Jon, the Koreans couldn't make something as classy or stylish as your Grande Punto.

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When it comes to reliability, my dad had a Kia Sorento and it was in the garage more than both my Fiat and the Chrysler he drives now. Fiat and Chrysler don't really have a reputation for building bulletproof cars.

Modern Fiats are quite well made. Jon what probles has your GP given you?