Epsilon Euskadi are in too

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Originally Posted by ioan

But what is worth success if you can achieve it only if your competition is handicapped?! :rolleyes:

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It's worth money in the bank! :cool:

Ask every doping athlete what they think it's worth having an uneven playing field. Of course, there is never anyone trying to get an undue and possibly unfair advantage in a pure competition environment like F1, right? :rolleyes: ;)

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Originally Posted by maximilian

It's worth money in the bank! :cool:

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Thanks for confirming what I always said, they are in only for making money on the cheap!
This exactly why I don not want them, because they aren't like Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and other teams who are in it for what F1 means for them and not for the money.

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Originally Posted by maximilian

Ask every doping athlete what they think it's worth having an uneven playing field. Of course, there is never anyone trying to get an undue and possibly unfair advantage in a pure competition environment like F1, right? :rolleyes: ;)

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Two wrongs do not make a right! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ioan

They did submit an entry too.
Interesting read:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75791

These the parts that attracted my attention:



£70-75 million is around or even more than the Force India budget! So why didn't these teams want to be in F1 before?!



Once again if money isn't the most important in F1 than why everyone is so willing to get in now when there are talks about a budget cap :?:

However, IF what he says in the article is true, than I would love them to be 1 of the 3 new teams as they look to be the best prepared for this step and the most serious ones.

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Fiat as well. In fact with Ferrari retiring, the Fiat cars, two flaming red Puntos will be competing as well. How clever is that??????
AhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAhAh :)

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Originally Posted by ioan

Why?

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Because here in Spain Epsilon Euskadi is a perfect stranger for most of the people, and taking into account their racing abilities it may turn in some kind of "symbol", and when someone or something is turned into that, we´ll be flooded with it until everyone complains about that.

It´s like what could happen with Campos Racing (or whatever it´s called now):

-Campos! Have you seen the Campos?
-No, the Epsilon Euskadi blocked the way, so I couldn´t Campos the Campos, and I had to turn to the Epsilon Euskadi in order to Campos the Alonso.

And here in Spain some people are allergic to anything that has Euskadi written on it. It would be good to see Epsilon Euskadi doing well, but it´d be both funny and sad to see how some people would denostate them arguing they´re basque. Sad but true... Anyway, maybe F1 explodes, or implodes, or whatever before 2010 season.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Thanks for confirming what I always said, they are in only for making money on the cheap!
This exactly why I don not want them, because they aren't like Ferrari, McLaren, Williams and other teams who are in it for what F1 means for them and not for the money.

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Isnt the main reason for Renault, BMW, Toyota and Mercedes being in F1 to make more money, buy promoting themselves and selling more cars?

Luckily they aren't called Eta Euskadi! ;)

I'd sign them up like a shot, if only because of the gorgeous Le Mans car they produced last year :)

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Isnt the main reason for Renault, BMW, Toyota and Mercedes being in F1 to make more money, buy promoting themselves and selling more cars?

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Mixing bananas with apples? :rolleyes:

And how many cars will Litespeed, USF1, Campos, Lola, Dallara, March or Epsilon Euskadi sell if they will be in F1?!

The manufacturers are not in F1 for the money Bernie dishes out every year, the privateers will only come for that, otherwise they would have been in already like Minardi, Jordan, Force India and others did before.

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Originally Posted by ioan

And how many cars will Epsilon Euskadi sell if they will be in F1?!

Mixing bananas with apples? :rolleyes:

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No, just pointing out that half the current grid is their to make more money via self promotion. If others think that they can make some money by running a succesful race team in F1, especially when there sole existence is motorsport anyway, then I've got no problem with it.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Mixing bananas with apples? :rolleyes:

And how many cars will Litespeed, USF1, Campos, Lola, Dallara, March or Epsilon Euskadi sell if they will be in F1?!

The manufacturers are not in F1 for the money Bernie dishes out every year, the privateers will only come for that, otherwise they would have been in already like Minardi, Jordan, Force India and others did before.

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No, just pointing out that half the current grid is their to make more money via self promotion. If others think that they can make some money by running a succesful race team in F1, especially when there sole existence is motorsport anyway, then I've got no problem with it.

Force India and Jordan are one and the same, via Midland. Minardi came in in the mid 80's when it cost considerably less to run an F1 team.

Dont compare Minardi and Jordan's entries of the mid 80's/early 90's (Force India were a billionairs buyout, so definitely not comparable) to late 2000's, the sport and costs involvaed have changed radically since, making such entries impossible.

I think you've got an over cynical view of the people involved in the motorsport industry below F1 level.