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20th November 2008, 16:45
Dave B

I don't want to say "I told you so", but....
20th November 2008, 17:31
goodf1fun

I remember last year when Silverstone was dropped, someone said that moving to Donington was only to make UK lose the grand prix....
20th November 2008, 18:33

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Originally Posted by wedge

I for one don't blame Donington one bit. They're just picking up the pieces from a pile of mess created by Bernie.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

While that may be true (undoubtedly is?), Donington's bosses/owners shouldn't have made such ambitious claims about their ability to stage the race in 2010.

In all this, don't forget who the real villain is.

Step forward Sir Jackie Stewart, under whose stewardship the future fate of the British GP was sealed.

Not that I'm that bothered....Monza is much better value for money.
20th November 2008, 18:37
N. Jones

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Originally Posted by Oli_M

Oh I am so surprised I did not expect this to happen at all

/sarcasm

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44640

Bye Bye British GP. Thanks Donington.

Didn't everyone - fans and journos predict this when it was announced? :laugh: I hope no is surprised by this....
20th November 2008, 19:35
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by tamburello

In all this, don't forget who the real villain is.

Step forward Sir Jackie Stewart, under whose stewardship the future fate of the British GP was sealed.

Don't forget that there are two sides to every argument. He and Bernie rubbed each other up the wrong way, there's no doubt about that, but I don't think one is at fault any more than the other. And this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person, no matter how neatly doing so fits into your pre-ordained views on other matters.
20th November 2008, 23:00
wedge

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Step forward Sir Jackie Stewart, under whose stewardship the future fate of the British GP was sealed.

Not entirely.

JYS has talked many a time about modernising Silverstone, turning it into the centre of British motorsport etc, but was held back by the old guard within the BRDC who were against change.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Don't forget that there are two sides to every argument. He and Bernie rubbed each other up the wrong way, there's no doubt about that, but I don't think one is at fault any more than the other. And this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person, no matter how neatly doing so fits into your pre-ordained views on other matters.

Agreed. There is no doubt more to it than what is already exposed currently. It seems its a personal issue only privy between the BRDC and Bernie without public scrutiny.

Anyway, we shouldn't be typical cynical Brits and pointing fingers. I for one hate to imagine Bernie enjoying these shenanigans. The British GP is in the last chance saloon and we should be getting behind it and keep our fingers crossed.
20th November 2008, 23:04
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by wedge

The British GP is in the last chance saloon and we should be getting behind it and keep our fingers crossed.

I hate to say it, but 'getting behind it' isn't going to do any good. After all, everybody — including Bernie, he says — was behind the Canadian GP but this backing hasn't exactly helped it survive.
21st November 2008, 11:57
ioan

How much would the changes at Donington cost?
Did they secure the money they need? If yes than it's OK.
If not than bad luck, cause now wil be much more difficult to get a loan in fair conditions.
In the end everything is about money, not about people.
21st November 2008, 17:42

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Don't forget that there are two sides to every argument. He and Bernie rubbed each other up the wrong way, there's no doubt about that, but I don't think one is at fault any more than the other. And this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person, no matter how neatly doing so fits into your pre-ordained views on other matters.

Funny though how I was, and remain, the only person to point out that was another option for 'villain of the piece'.

It obviously did not fit into others pre-ordained views of the situation, so perhaps you should condescend them equally?

Failing to do so, failing to be equal, somewhat undermines those liberal and fair credentials you like to promote. Shocking, but then it probably doesn't fit into your pre-ordained view to have done so either.
21st November 2008, 20:40
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Funny though how I was, and remain, the only person to point out that was another option for 'villain of the piece'.

It obviously did not fit into others pre-ordained views of the situation, so perhaps you should condescend them equally?

Failing to do so, failing to be equal, somewhat undermines those liberal and fair credentials you like to promote. Shocking, but then it probably doesn't fit into your pre-ordained view to have done so either.

Re-read the bit of my post where I say 'this is far too complex an issue for the blame to be laid on the shoulders of one person'. This is my 'pre-ordained' view on the subject, and I believe it to be the right one, unlike merely saying 'blame Bernie' or 'blame JYS'.

And were you really 'shocked' by my opinion, or is that just another bit of overblown rhetoric?

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