Originally Posted by cut the b.s.
How do you rate Tomi Makinen? 4 titles with 1 manufacturer, like Loeb in a car that didn't do that much for anyone else? Do you rate him and Loeb lower than KKK, 4 titles with 3 makers, sure he was there from the start of the GpA Delta era but the 205 T16 and the Celica were well sorted cars when he went to those teams.
Loeb has shown how good he is, he could be champ in a Focus and no rally driver that has ever been could be champ in the current Subaru or Suzuki, the statement you make is said quite often on here and it is utter nonsense. His record of wins and success against team mates says all needs said.