The end or the world as we know it!!!!!

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Originally Posted by wmcot

As far as F1 is concerned, there will always be controversial decisions as long as we have humans involved. The only way to participate in F1 without the human part entering in is play it on a PS2 or XBox (or similar.)

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Well, F1 games create even more controversy. It's easy to blame a computer-controlled rival car, if an accident occurs. :p :

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

It's not life or death. Few things are yet we can be passionate about them.

This is a sport that I follow and invest a lot of time in because I enjoy it. However, that enjoyment is greatly diminished by the governing bodies actions.

If I wanted to watch a rigged sport, I would watch WWF wrewteling, boxing or Horse racing.

I don't. i want to watch Motorsport so believe I have every right to be totally pi$$ed off when there is blatent cheating and champion fixing.

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You are so right. I assume how incensed you were when Lewis was craned last year, then ;) :D

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Originally Posted by wmcot

I stopped bothering to read the posts on this forum a few months back because I got tired of reading the self-proclaimed experts passing judgments and posing conspiracy theories that suit their own causes. After today's race, I couldn't resist having another look.

Sure enough, the conspiracy theorists and the "I'll never watch another race" whiners are still out in force.

The thing is that some have forgotten that F1 is JUST a sport. It's not life or death. Is there any other sport where a controversial or questionable call has not been made? Name me one and I will watch it forever!

Come on people - the sun will still come up in the morning whether the call was right or wrong! If your favorite doesn't win this year, perhaps next year will be the year. You still have your family, you'll still go to your job in the morning, you'll still have food on the table (unless you bet this month's paycheck on the wrong team!)

I enjoy F1 and a few other form of racing. They're not perfect. My team doesn't always win. Sometimes they get bad calls and sometimes the others do.

I guess the unique thing about F1 is that most of the top teams in the past have either come from the UK or from Italy (i.e. Ferrari.) This has created a huge rift in the F1 fans that if one side is the beneficiary of a questionable call, it must be a "conspiracy." It doesn't even matter which side you are on, the other is absolute evil as far as you are concerned.

I would suggest that some of us might be taking things a bit too seriously when it ruins our moods and we become hostile to our family members because another car manufacturer or driver was declared the winner in a stupid motor race! Ask your husband/wife/parent/ etc. if they are annoyed at your mood swings depending on who wins a race. If it is affecting your life, it has stopped being a form of entertainment and begun taking over your thought process - Not a healthy thing!

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While I agree that ANYTHING that negatively affects your interaction with your family is not healthy (including job or career), I'm not sure how many people are doing anything other than venting their emotions HERE. It has been found in various studies that domestic violence does rise immediately after big sporting events (not just F1, but also soccer, baseball and American football). There was a case a couple of years ago where a NASCAR fan shot his wife when she (mistakenly?) cheered for a driver that her husband hated. Yeah, I'd say that's taking it too far. :dozey:

But in the same way that I don't think it's healthy to take sports (or work) too seriously, I also don't think it's healthy to take words on a message board too seriously (not that you are doing that... I'm just saying). I live in the States. The reason that I've been on this board for over 8 years is the same reason that I've followed F1 for 35+: even at its worst, I find it interesting, if not entertaining. Here, there are posters from all over the world. Whether I agree or disagree with various people here, I at least can get viewpoints from people who I would otherwise never meet or have any interaction with.

So, just as I enjoyed sharing a passion for F1 and Ayrton Senna with my ex-fiance (F1 kept us together for at least a year longer than we should have been together), I enjoy experiencing the passion that drives people here to either speak with data or just emotion (maybe lacking data or even basic logic). I enjoy the people who bleed Ferrari red, like Ioan, as much as people who are more objective and thoughtful... or maybe don't even have a favorite team or driver. And best of all, unlike a racing board I was on about 10 years ago, no one here has yet threatened to come to my house and shoot me. :eek:

Until there is gunfire, it's all in fun, or at least that's how I see it. Course, there's always tomorrow. :)

I'm ready to move on...

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Originally Posted by tinchote

You are so right. I assume how incensed you were when Lewis was craned last year, then ;) :D

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If there is one thing which clearly shows the FIA's complete bias towards Lewis Hamilton it is the very incident you're talking about *snigger*

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Originally Posted by Daniel

If there is one thing which clearly shows the FIA's complete bias towards Lewis Hamilton it is the very incident you're talking about *snigger*

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Yes, you have posted this in a couple of threads.

I was mistakenly under the impression that it was eventually found to be illegal but I may be wrong.

I think the rule was tightened up afterwards but this is what Richard Woods of the FIA had to say on the subject.

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"We are extremely happy with what happened. He was in a dangerous spot - he kept his engine running and the quickest and easiest way, under the circumstances, to get him and the car out of the way was to get him back on the track and get him going again and, as far as we are concerned, that was fine."

"Marshalls can overrule the driver but, in this case, it is our understanding that there wasn't a dispute between the marshalls and Lewis. It seems clear that the quickest way for him to be moved out of harm's way, shall we say, was to do exactly what they did. That's what I've got from race control." Woods added that there had been no report of complaint to Charlie Whiting, the race director, from the marshalls about Lewis.

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It seems that not even the FIA could justify penalising him on this occassion :D

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Yes, you have posted this in a couple of threads.

I was mistakenly under the impression that it was eventually found to be illegal but I may be wrong.

I think the rule was tightened up afterwards but this is what Richard Woods of the FIA had to say on the subject.



It seems that not even the FIA could justify penalising him on this occassion :D

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I was being sarcastic :) As you may have seen in many threads I've said that I see no evidence of bias, just bad decisions.

With that incident no real harm was done as Lewis didn't score points so it's neither here nor there.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I was being sarcastic :) As you may have seen in many threads I've said that I see no evidence of bias, just bad decisions.

With that incident no real harm was done as Lewis didn't score points so it's neither here nor there.

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And there was me thinking you claimed he should have been black flagged :confused:

Funny how you can remember this incident clearly but not the one where Schumacher several times cut corners to stay ahead of PdlR. ;)

Still, it's not the end of the world :D

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

And there was me thinking you claimed he should have been black flagged :confused:

Funny how you can remember this incident clearly but not the one where Schumacher several times cut corners to stay ahead of PdlR. ;)

Still, it's not the end of the world :D

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Perhaps because prior to last year I never really watched F1 with any regularity. Sometimes I could watch a few races in a row and sometimes I only saw 1 or 2 races a year. If you want to PM Caroline and ask her about my F1 watching habits feel free to :p

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Perhaps because prior to last year I never really watched F1 with any regularity. Sometimes I could watch a few races in a row and sometimes I only saw 1 or 2 races a year. If you want to PM Caroline and ask her about my F1 watching habits feel free to :p

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Not knowing the history of F1 and the Ferrari / FIA relationship would explain why you cannot see the pattern of bias but I suggest you really do consider some of the considerable knowledge that people here like Micky have.

This "one rule for us and one rule for them" has been going on for years.