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Why am I not surprised to see this kind of remark from this particular poster? The only one I would have been less surprised to see it from was ChaimWitz, but oh, that's right, he already gave his grand farewell gloat. How's about this? Suck.**.****.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
Some of you guys, including you, sound like a bunch of whiny old women living alone with cats whose favorite soap opera was cancelled, not grown men discussing a manly man sport like autoracing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skid Marx
Barry - Right On !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bblocker68
Classy dude, classy, always best to write about what you know best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skid Marx
The Canadians were probably some of the most affected by this aside of the CC staff. They lose two races and so far their most popular driver unless PT can get a ride.
It's abysmal how poorly the CC staff was treated by their higher-ups, communications was required and they didn't say anything about it until the last minute and done. Others left, or were dispatched, earlier because of the lack of funds. Some are bitter and others couldn't care less.
It seems rude IRL is not extending an open hand to the ex-CC members but racing has always been a volatile business with much turnover. Timing is everything and it does seem a bit irritating there has not been more positive news since the unification announcement.
Conquest has only announced one driver, KV likewise, NHL both of theirs. But the other teams have been quiet, they haven't been screaming.
Such an announcement can't make everyone happy but what we have now is one series, something that's been lost for a dozen years. See where it goes from here.
The heritage of CART didn't dissapear, it's with IRL now. Well, in theory, at least. And even though I'll miss parts of Champ Car (the racing was quite good despite the low car count), out of the two options I did prefer the IRL to win. Champ Car was going places I didn't want it to (no ovals and racing in Europe, primarily).
HUH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogelio
Rather than a complete collapse and surrender to the IRL, it would have been nice to have Champ Car (Amigos) have at least a little impact/influence on the direction of the IRL. Surely, the Amigos failed to adequately run a profesional racing series and they are to blame for CC's falilure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilf
However, if CC would not have been in the dire condition that it was in (eventual bankruptcy), then perhaps CC could have had a little leverage on the direction/terms of the "merger". TG and the IRL won and they can choose the direction that they want the league to go in. I certainly feel bad for the Canadian fans who supported Champ Car all of these years and they do not even have a race. Yea, maybe next year.
There is no way that I would have wanted the Amigos running the IRL, then again, I do not care for TG either. The reality is that CC lost, there is no "merger", and most of the CC fans feel alienated and distraught. Since 1996, CART/CC looked at the IRL as the enemy, and now we have to accept reality that our series lost.
How many more of these threads do we need to see? I certainly sympathize for those who lost their jobs and fans who lost events due to the merger. Nevertheless, I'm glad to see the Champ Car of recent years gone and dead. I have long been a fan of CART, and while the whole IRL merger may not be perfect, it is certainly is ideal in that it eliminates the Amigos, who have no business running a series. I'm not a fan of TG in any respect, but I feel no sympathy that KK and GF's "vision" failed. Simply put, TG and the Amigos are little more than a bunch of egotistal ***holes who put their own personal "visions" of what Open Wheel should be ahead of the history and the individuals who lost their jobs, for whom you claim to lament. If there is one positive out of all this, its that at least there's only 1 of these ***holes left who can possibly ruin North American Open Wheel any more than it has already been done. And perhaps, for once, everybody can focus on racing. With all the talk of "Panoz faster than Dallara", "Patrick better than Legge", "Turbo vs Normally Aspirated", "Honda vs Cosworth", "Long Beach vs Motegi", and all the other pissing matches between both sides, most of the fanatics on both sides turned a blind eye to the ****ty product on the race track.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimispeed
I look forward to tuning into a race at Kentucky, so that when Monday morning rolls around, I can talk about the great race the day before. I hope that the days are over that I can watch a race at Road America, and the only post-race talk is whether or not there will be another race the next season.
Enough is enough, CC is no more, we had enough time to comment about this, posts like this do not add anything new.