Entry List Lavanttal Rally:
http://www.lavanttal-rallye.at/2016/DOK/nennliste.pdf
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Entry List Lavanttal Rally:
http://www.lavanttal-rallye.at/2016/DOK/nennliste.pdf
Lavanttal Rallye 2016 - round 2 of Austrian championship:
Very nice entry list: http://www.lavanttal-rallye.at/2016/nennliste.html
Leading entries:
Baumschlager - Skoda Fabia R5
Kreim - Skoda Fabia R5
Grössing - Ford Fiesta WRC
Neubauer - Ford Fiesta WRC
Hunziker - Mini WRC
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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...37ce081000.jpg
As it is about two weeks to start Turkish Rally Champs, press meeting of BC Vision Motorsport held at Istanbul Bosphours.
There will be four crews;
Burak Cukurova - Vedat Bostanci with 208 T16
Ahmet Burkay - Bilge Ayan with DS3 R3T
Alparslan Cukurova - Ertugrul Gunduz with 208 R2
Alptekin Iskalp - Selin Ozgur with Palio Gr.N
208's and DS3 will be run by Team Fruil Italy.
Season opening will be at Izmir Aeagen Rally at 16-17 th of April.
I will be attending to the team as Techincal Manager.
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Gallery: Gravel Test - Fabian Kreim / Frank Christian, Skoda Fabia R5:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_brr_..._fabia_r5.html
http://www.ir7.at/gal_kreim.jpg
Only Vallejo and Perez (Fiesta) competing with R5's at spanish next round. It seems local drivers are waiting to see how much N+ cars can improve on the continental roads. In Mitsu team, Garcia has now Monarri as team mate. Portuguese R5's drivers Vieira (DS) and Barros (Fiesta) will also compete, testing for portuguese next rally. http://www.rallyesierramorena.com/listainscritos.html
Brasov Rally, first round of Romanian championship:
1 Tempestini Fiesta R5 59:20min
2 Gartofan Fabia R5 +0:33,6min
3 Marisca Fiesta R5 +1:20,8min
Vallejo DS3 test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrXFB4sU17Q
Huge battle in Hungarian/Slovak Rally Eger: http://www.srs.sk/vysledky_new/index...&ho=&idr=&srp=
After 9 stages Grzyb (Pol) leading ahead of Valoušek (Cze) and Herzig (Hun) but they change their positions very often.
5 WRC, 13 R5, 3 S2000, 8 R4 or the great F2 306 Maxi of Bútor started in the rally!
Just arrived back, unfortunately had time only for this day. But what a day it was!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The standard and the pace was very high, with almost everybody suffering from punctures (Herczig or Melichárek for example), and great atmosphere. The "old" 306 Maxi generated more interest than the R5s serviced next to it, and also on the stages everybody was waiting for it, like it was a messiah or something :D The "evo" 208 T16 with Janika retired after stage 5 with an engine problem, it started right before me, sounded like it went to three then to two cylinders, but nothing has been said about it so far. All in all a great day, and I'm sure tomorrow will be just as good as well. Good luck to everybody still in competition!
Funny, in the Netherlands few weeks ago also the 306 Maxi of Madsen was the car that everybody thought was the most interesting one. They still sound and look great.
Just some more thoughts: the 208 was good till it gave up, it was about as fast as the Fiestas and Fabias. Also, it looks like there's no rally in Eger without having to put out a forest fire started by fans (at least everytime I was there, that was the case). There were some nasty accidents as well, most notably a Fabia S2000 went off into the trees and caught fire. But fortunately nobody was hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
Yes, that was Czech driver Ondřej Bisaha who switched recently from DS3 R3T.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWRC
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6a&oe=57BF17B7
1,2 seconds between Grzyb and Herzig before last stage!
And Grzyb wins by 0,5! Great rally by both, also by Valousek for his first time in the R5, in the end it seemed like he was concentrating more on finishing 2nd in MSR rather than pushing it too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Final results
1. Grzyb (Fiesta R5) 1:12:02,8
2. Herzig (Fabia R5) +0,5
3. Valoušek (Fabia R5) +10,3
4. Melichárek (Fiesta WRC) +20,2
5. Hádik (Fiesta R5) +27,8
6. Ondrej (Fabia WRC) +42,4
7. Kazár (Fiesta R5) +57,6
8. Spitzmüller (Evo IX R4) +1:20,2
9. Vincze (Evo IX R4) +1:26,1
10. Botka (Evo IX R4) +1:30,0
23. Bútor (306 Maxi) +4:06,6
Βotka with evo 9,not ds3?
Grzyb wins a very interesting Eger Rally in a great style! Congratulations!
http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201...403_67073h.jpg
Slovakian championship syandings:
1. Grzyb 60, 2. Valoušek 46, 3. Melichárek 42, Hadik 42, 5. Ondrej 34, 6. Trencsényi 28.
Yes. Does anyone know if Hungarians still use ethanol powered R4? Today on the extremely fast stages the R4 were setting times quite equal with R5 (yesterday on slower stages not).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Yes, he has two cars, one for European and one for Hungarian championship. Look:Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
http://m.cdn.blog.hu/pr/pressrelease...ajttaj_135.jpg
Baumschlager took 27,9 sec off Neubauer at Lavanttal Rallye (2nd run of Austrian championship) on just 2 stages, Neubauer only third now behind Grössing after 3 stages (Neubauer won the first stage). Even if we consider that roads are wet, which should be an advantage for Baumschlager, there must be something wrong with Neubauer. Normally he isn´t slower than Grössing.
EDIT: Neubauer just 4th after 4 stages with 1:50 behind Baumschlager, even a Subaru Impreza driver in front of him.
It is so great that Baumschlager is leading against the WRCs. Maybe next year he must use a R2 car an his contrahents try to argue that his car is faster than a WRC. Go Mundl. You are the best!!!
This rally shows also again, that Kreim won't be a new Röhrl.
Neubauer had techincal issues ( Auf der Vier mit kaputter Halbachse leider sehr viel Zeit verloren - google translate - On the four with a broken half shaft unfortunately lost a lot of time).
He did win the first stage.
But anyway Baumschlager is the man :)
Neubauer had a broken driveshaft and a puncture, Grössing puncture too.
Yesterday Baumschlager showed his big experience, respect. Kreim on the same car already 54,9 sec behind.
Kreim is doing well today, a lot better than yesterday.
How are you commenting today's happening at Rally Sierra Morena? Burgo with hampered P911 is in a stricking distance to Perez...what is your proposal for FIA? To disconect one cylinder bank for 911's?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
And what a great performance by Garcia!! Already one minute lead with evoX N+.... A car worth 1/3 compare to high-tech R5 cars....
What does Sierra Morena have to do with FIA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Fixed for You.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
Besides that there is nothing hi-tech on R5. In many ways the gr.N car is more hi-tech than R5 (for example it has active center differential). R5 are tailor-made race cars built within a framework of rules which weren't created to compete against whatever invention any ASN in the world comes with. Your never-ending meaningless comparisons make no sense as it's formost the R5 which is restricted.
I dont agree with N4+ rules at Spain. Its the same like the unrestricted 911s against r5 cars.I ve wrote it after the 1st rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
But whats your problem? That a overpowered evo X changed the podium from a overpowerded 911?
any link with Sierra Morena stage results?
Final results of Rally Lavanttal, Austria
1. Baumschlager (Fabia R5) 2:01:13,9
2. Kreim (Fabia R5) +1:20,8
3. Neubauer (Fiesta WRC) +1:44,8
4. Grössing (Fiesta WRC) +3:23,3
5. Hideg (Evo IX R4) +6:02,5
6. Kössler (Impreza STI R4) +6:46,7
7. Gassner sen. (Evo X R4) +7:45,6
8. Szeja (Impreza STI N4) +8:29,3
9. Wollinger (Clio R3) +8:43,7
10. Kalteis (Evo VII A8) +9:48,0
Very nice of Baumschlager and Kreim! What will they vote for next? Give Baumschlager penalty of 2 minutes before every rally :-D
Very very impressive drive by Baumschlager and also Kreim on Saturday.
Maybe next year the opponents should try to get some 2017spec WRCs :)
how do You know they would be faster for them?Quote:
Originally Posted by tc10a
http://online1.atodomotor.com/online...2/2/rally.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Burgos restricted 911 close with faster r5 of Perez. Go figure how ''hard they were trying'' last year the unrestricted 911 with 450 bhp.Really heroes their drivers. lololol
And plenty of guys from here wanted to continue this farce.
Vallejo hard times with not bhp advantage.
Enlighten me please in what way driving a beast is a farce?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Once we’re on ‘fixing’ mode:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
“Besides that there is nothing hi-tech on OVERPRICED R5. In many ways the gr.N car is more hi-tech than R5 (for example it has active center differential). R5 are tailor-made race cars built within a framework of rules which weren't created to compete against whatever invention any ASN in the world comes with”.
Btw, you managed to expose R5 major paradox: they’re technically simple cars, yet they cost around 250.000€!
Probably because R5 is about “tailor-made rally cars (…) which weren’t created to compete against” other cars, they’ve become a sort of manu’s tuners monopoly and FIA sloppily allow them to hugely surpass R5’s initial target prices.
It’s true they sell well, but they’re still very expensive cars to buy and run. Maybe FIA doesn’t care, but ASN’s must provide competitive opportunities for teams and drivers with lower budgets. Getting a fair BOP between different rally classes it’s not a “whatever invention”, it’s a wise measure taken on the sport interest.
Another amazing exhibition of Garcia’s N+ Evo on the spanish championship. He was almost 1m in front of Perez Fiesta R5 at the end of the morning and spent the rest of the day controlling the advantage.
His domination on the Spanish championship is becoming a joke, after RFEA decision to undermine 911’s in order to get R5’s at the top.
Even undermined, 911’s still are competitive (2 of them on the top 5), cheap to run, fun to drive and the public favorites.
Rally Sierra Morena classification: http://www.atodomotor.com/online/201...clasiral.html?
What You don't see is the price of development. Years of designing, testing, hiring the best people etc. cost a lot of money. You can't skip this part and count the price of the product by simple materials. Once there is more than one manufacturer involved the competition requires spending money, the more competition, the more money. If there was no competition nobody would need two years of testing to make things working better than others. It's not about simplicity of the parts but about the competition between manufacturers. That maybe another paradox as we all want more competition but more competition means that everybody must spend a lot more to be successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Anyway R5 are the most successfully sold top regional level cars ever therefore I don't think they are that much overpriced. Currently the sales of R5 cars are higher than of anything else in the rally world and M-Sport or Škoda sales are limited solely by production capacity.
For me the sales say enough that R5 in current state are good enough product for the market. Otherwise they wouldn't be sold out for something like a year ahead.
Gallery - ORM Lavanttal Rallye 2016:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_best...llye_2016.html
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_orm_...llye_2016.html
http://www.ir7.at/lav16.jpg
you still cant understant why is wrong to compete with 100-150bhp advantage against other competitors?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Video 'Best of' Lavanttal Rallye 2016 - 12 Min:
https://vimeo.com/162266675
http://www.ir7.at/lav16vid.png
There are already many ideas how Neubauer can win the Austrian championship:Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
- give Baumschlager penalty of 2 minutes before every rally
- introduce a rule that Baumschlager has to drive R2 car in every rally
- give Neubauer a 2017-spec WRC
and then maybe Neubauer finally wins by 0,1 sec over Mundl :D