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22nd August 2022, 07:03
flat_right

It is from Estonian media but I can't understand who are they quoting (they say journalist over the sea (Finnish))

Q: Will Ott Tänak drive with Hyundai next year?
Moncet: I hope that Ott stays with us.

Q: Hope? Doesn't Hyundai have a contract with him?
Moncet: I don't make contracts with drivers and will never do it.

Q: So it is not certain that Tänak will continue?
Moncet: Here is nothing certain. There are conditions in the contract that may allow the driver to leave. This is the same in any other field, for example in football. But I hope that Ott belongs here and we will continue together.

In the same article they mention that "Finnish colleague" got a strong message from an English source that Tänak is moving to M-Sport.

So go figure... But in all the interviews that I watched this week where they discussed this Hyundai topic with Tänak that he seems in a way desperate (and has been quite a while like this). He would want to stay and is pushing the team to get the structure in place but he is not seeing the results.
22nd August 2022, 07:13
AnttiL

https://www.rallit.fi/jysahtaako-ral...oinen-vastaus/

It's here.
22nd August 2022, 07:16
cali

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat_right

It is from Estonian media but I can't understand who are they quoting (they say journalist over the sea (Finnish))

Q: Will Ott Tänak drive with Hyundai next year?
Moncet: I hope that Ott stays with us.

Q: Hope? Doesn't Hyundai have a contract with him?
Moncet: I don't make contracts with drivers and will never do it.

Q: So it is not certain that Tänak will continue?
Moncet: Here is nothing certain. There are conditions in the contract that may allow the driver to leave. This is the same in any other field, for example in football. But I hope that Ott belongs here and we will continue together.

In the same article they mention that "Finnish colleague" got a strong message from an English source that Tänak is moving to M-Sport.

So go figure... But in all the interviews that I watched this week where they discussed this Hyundai topic with Tänak that he seems in a way desperate (and has been quite a while like this). He would want to stay and is pushing the team to get the structure in place but he is not seeing the results.

The question is how much of that he will achieve at M-Sport as currently they are in shambles and even if he moves there he has basically no help from others unless Breen gets a kick out of this move and will be a good 2nd guy in the team. And M-Sport's funds will mostly go to Tänak's salary which also does not help to develop the car to be a winning machinery against TGR or HMSG which have either unlimited or bigger resources.
If this move goes through it will definitely lighten up the series so in that regard I'm actually waiting this to happen but remain sceptical about M-Sport chances in the long run unless they secure some miracle deals (with drivers and sponsors). Unlike most other drivers Tänak doesn't have RedBull backing as well which would cover most of his salary so it will be financially difficult for the Cumbrian side
22nd August 2022, 07:22
Eli

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali

The question is how much of that he will achieve at M-Sport as currently they are in shambles and even if he moves there he has basically no help from others unless Breen gets a kick out of this move and will be a good 2nd guy in the team. And M-Sport's funds will mostly go to Tänak's salary which also does not help to develop the car to be a winning machinery against TGR or HMSG which have either unlimited or bigger resources.
If this move goes through it will definitely lighten up the series so in that regard I'm actually waiting this to happen but remain sceptical about M-Sport chances in the long run unless they secure some miracle deals (with drivers and sponsors). Unlike most other drivers Tänak doesn't have RedBull backing as well which would cover most of his salary so it will be financially difficult for the Cumbrian side

If they can get the funding they will benefit from having Tänak in the team and it might also help Breen’s development as a driver, they have worked together up until this year, sure this is a different position but with Tänak showing the way it will (hopefully) help Breen the same way Ogier helped Tänak back in 2017.
22nd August 2022, 07:28
bandit12

You all tend to forget one small but important nuance: Redgrey
This cash cow will disappear as soon as Tänak changes teams. Toyota doesn't have a Rally2 car, and the Fiesta feels more like a second-echelon machine at the moment.
22nd August 2022, 07:29
mknight

I don't quite see why Tanak would want to go to MSport right now.

Certainly not after last two rallies when he finally has results in Hyundai and MSport still has reliability issues and no (visible) development.

Thing is that contracts are often signed at different times of the year than we think. Often it is unexpectedly early. So maybe if he signed before Finland....

Surely it would be great for championship.
22nd August 2022, 07:29
cali

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eli

If they can get the funding they will benefit from having Tänak in the team and it might also help Breen’s development as a driver, they have worked together up until this year, sure this is a different position but with Tänak showing the way it will (hopefully) help Breen the same way Ogier helped Tänak back in 2017.

I'm sure this move would help Breen. Still the financial burden remains...
22nd August 2022, 07:30
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandit12

You all tend to forget one small but important nuance: Redgrey
This cash cow will disappear as soon as Tänak changes teams. Toyota doesn't have a Rally2 car, and the Fiesta feels more like a second-echelon machine at the moment.

Good point.

Now that the new Hyundai actually seems to perform well. Suninen said it was Redgrey who improved it.
22nd August 2022, 07:31
cali

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandit12

You all tend to forget one small but important nuance: Redgrey
This cash cow will disappear as soon as Tänak changes teams. Toyota doesn't have a Rally2 car, and the Fiesta feels more like a second-echelon machine at the moment.

I was thinking a one possible scenario as the Fiesta is quite old now what if this deal will contain developing new Rally 2 machinery and RedGrey has some rights to act as a satellite team or smth?
22nd August 2022, 07:40
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali

I was thinking a one possible scenario as the Fiesta is quite old now what if this deal will contain developing new Rally 2 machinery and RedGrey has some rights to act as a satellite team or smth?

But MSport already (recently) put money into MSport Poland.

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