Rally Sweden has signed a 2-year contract with Umeå as a base.
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Rally Sweden has signed a 2-year contract with Umeå as a base.
One interesting point even if it is not related to this rally: there has been only one new rally winner since 2018 (Rovanpera).
Ok, it was after a period with quite a lot of new winners (8 new winners between 2013 and 2018) but, still, it is one of the biggest drought ever.
Only comparison is probably 2007-2011 with only Latvala and Ogier as new winners (with also Ostberg in 2012 on disqualification so not really counting).
Also 1995-1996 but there were much less rally in these 2 years.
Don’t mean Rovanpera will dominate for a while because there can be little time between a 1st victory and being title contender but, still, it is a good indicator that it’s a difficult period for newcomer currently.
friend said, that today was the third time that they played Estonian anthem for Rovanperä(all his 3 wins)..
like how hard is it to name one song Finnish anthem and another Estonian anthem, and then play the right one :D
Sombre podium... assume this was just for the anthems.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMnRk3dX...jpg&name=large
It’s the same tune but in Finnish version the second part is repeated.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
My video from the event! Had a great time and actually having sun
for the whole weekend for the first time in 10 years or something sure helped!
https://youtu.be/xHgD5Z_vGcU
Contract signed for two more years in Umeå.
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/kla...tsatter-i-umea
Two videos from service area focusing on the historical rally cars in Rally Sweden 2022. Both videos have Swedish narration/interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT3hAYu2miw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUC0NsV3cTo
Excellent video as allways!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
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What a rally to see in real time. Stages very close together, conditions absolutely perfect but not to put a negative spin the marshals need to be on the same page. In some stages when we arrived 2.5hrs before first car we where refused to walk along the stage to our marked spectator point, being told we must stay at this spectator location only. Then on other stages it wasn't an issue. Marshalling is a tough job and I have respect for the people who do this but for next year its something they need to work on.
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We had exactly similar issues on a handful of stages. It was often as if only the marked areas were allowed. Sometimes you could continue walking further, sometimes they stopped. When there is no real reason for this, it's just annoying. Once they told me to take a marked detour instead of walking 200 meters on the road and continue. That was fine, because the reason was that a house owner didn't want anyone to pass their house - except the rally stage and spectators after the stage... Then, eventually, when spectating on a non-spectator zone, even with marshals, it was just fine. They just tried to deny the access, no matter was it 1,5 hours or 45 minutes before the stage. But I'm sure, comes the second year in Umeå, they are more experienced, know more about the spectator behaviour too and through that grow some common sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
The weirdest thing happened yesterday when leaving Sarsjöliden after the first run. I walked from the field to the road after the last car. A marshal there said I couldn't walk on the stage. I said it was the last car. He asked where I was intending to go. I replied "back home to Finland". He just smiled and showed with his hand that "Finland is that way. Have a nice day!" I started to walk, but some 15 meters later another marshal from the field started to run in the waist deep snow ("run") shouting that I couldn't walk on the road. Fekking hell.
All in all, the event was really nice. Maybe because I wasn't expecting anything special, it turned out so good. Also, the weather after Thursday 11AM was just 10/10 perfect. I could've stood there in the woods even without the rally. Also, everything was super well organized. This year there were no seperate charges for parking and that made parking easy, no queues. Also good field parks. Snow was deep. This year we have had too a lot of snow. There have been winters on the Finnish side of the gulf with a lot less snow, so Umeå can't be snow-guaranteed, but it's more so than anything 800 km South from it. I'm most likely to return next year, I see no reason why not.
Interesting to hear. I think this isn't a problem unique to Sweden - it happens on many rallies at all levels. Some marshals apply general common sense, others complete inflexibility. Human nature. But it's pretty infuriating when you encounter different stances within a few hundred metres. At least they don't try to fight you like in Spain!Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
How was it from spectator points viewing over the snowbanks? I've seen some pictures and videos seeing only windows and roofs. Must be important to get there early and find your own spots.
I did mostly spectate on other than spectator zones and on my point of views it was always a good view on the car. Sometimes I packed some snow (I had a shovel) to make it possible to stand a bit higher. In many places the snowbanks were around 60-80 cm, sometimes higher, but I think most of the spectator zones were somewhat above the road level. Sometimes very far too, like in the shakedown. For some people that is just fine, easy access.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
My video from Rally Sweden 2022 jumps, flat out, slides 🙂
https://youtu.be/r5KeSufx81c
Yeah it was tricky in places with marshals and there was one guy with beard and pink? headphones we saw on several places always screaming, like on the Brattby jump i couldn't really see so much with all the people sticking their heads and phones out right at the last second for Rally1 and some spaniards almost ended up in a fight with the marshals and constantly arguing with two young girls so i moved up by the other photographers for WRC2 in a less safe place, then the beard guy was right behind me filming with his phone saying nothing suddenly. Powerstage i had to give up filming by P2, no energy left, you should see my feet!
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Originally Posted by DocMS
I saw a preview video on yt and the safety chief (or something like that) mentioned that they would be very strict regarding people walking on the stage,
IMO until 30 min before start of 0 car on stage it should be ok to walk on the stage away from a spectator area, especially if there are few access roads.
I was unable to travel to Umeå this year but hope to be able to attend next year. Also now that they have signed for two more years perhaps they will be able to tweak the course a bit if needed.
Most importantly Umeå delivered when it came to the white stuff, so nice to see a Rally Sweden held in proper winter conditions.
It was a special Rally Sweden 2022, for sure more strict than before on some places. But already looking forward to next year!
My gallery: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2022.html
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Vw&oe=622232D8
SS3 1,5 hours before first car.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
First, the "envelope" area at junction was about 300 - 400 meters long. WTF? Second, marshals did not allow tu use it (1,5 hours before) and forced the spectators to ditch. There was about 60 - 70 cm snow there, I literally sank in up to the balls. Got myself back to road, told marshals to fuck off and marched to the spectator area. Majority of law abinding locals followed the ditch though. Poor them.
In conclusion (based on many things) - one of the most terribly organised rallies in my 45 years long spectating history. Not worth going next year.
Back home from a fantastic event. Amazing stages and road conditions. The amount of snow made it quite difficult to move along the stages. And indeed, some marshals didn't make sense at all. Sometimes it was difficult to "escape" the public areas, even while being there far more than half an hour before. A lot of people complained and for good reason, on most spectator areas you could barely see the roof of the cars...
A few photos:
https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...QQ&oe=62219967
https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...7Q&oe=6222516B
https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...0g&oe=622255A9
https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...jA&oe=622170E1
https://scontent.fbru4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...SQ&oe=622235D5
Link to the album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set?v...41994869145667
MM-Rally Sweden 24-27.02.2022
Shakedown
SS1, SS3, SS4, SS8, SS11 ja SS12
Regroup
https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.22/
If you used that language to volunteer marshals giving up their free time to help the rally then you should be ashamed of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by linni
You should have heard how some of them talked to people, seen and heard a lot but this was on another levelQuote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
Not sticking up for this type of language to volunteers but some of these volunteer's were completely out if line this year. I witnessed a marshal absolutely lose it with an Italian spectator who was walking up the stage 1.5hrs before 1st car. Causing zero harm to anyone. Firstly he was shouting in Swedish which the spectator did not understand and continues walking as was completely unaware, the marshal ran up the stage to the spectator and shouted in English to get the F**k off the road. Asked him if he was f**King Brain dead and if he didn't get behind the tape he was calling off the whole stage. The spectator actually apologised to which the marshal called him a F**King idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
I appreciate the work these volunteers do. Without these people these events do not take place, but it's something that needs major attention before 2023.
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They only got what they deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos
Never seen such aggressive and stupid marshals before.
If you cannot do your job, stay at home.
Been to Rally Finland for 20 years, zero problems. Top notch marshaling.
Whoever that is, needs banning from being anywhere near a rally ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Quite a common situation. Never nice, but quite a common. With a lot of snow, the sound of the approaching car gets buried and you get surprised. Thank god for the short entry lists, so it's OK to spectate all the cars and leave only then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
It's the fact the guy's filmed it and put it on Twitter that really bugs me, like it's something to be proud of, "great banter"... anyone can make a mistake, that's bad enough, but boasting about how you're like a suicidal Group B fan is enough evidence for me that rallying would be better off without him and his mates being interested in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
The car is Veiby’s Polo, likely second WRC2 car so they are walking on the stage quite early on. Difficult to understand.
That's true. More often people should realize when is the moment to be ashamed of themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
I'm slow this morning, but that video must've been made on purpose. I mean, how many of you keep the phone filming while walking out of a live stage during the winter?Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
The marshall boss said they have aprox 50/50 of old marshalls from old rally org in Värmland, and new team from motorclubs in Västerbotten county. So if there is a new guy, they tend to do as they are told, afraid to make a mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by linni
But it is always allowed to use your head, especially a long time before the rally and quick cars.
We have well many times jumped over the snowbank, as the people did for Veiby. The high snowbanks will muffle the sound, along with your beany, so you need to be aware.
These days when 95% have music from their mobile in their ears, that need to be forbidden walking in and out of stages!!
Oh dear me..... Embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by linni
I guess he realised, as the tweet has gone now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Svenska Bilsportförbundet (Swedish car sports federation) has bought all of Uvåns Näringslivscenter's shares in Rally Sweden and
Svenska Bilsportförbundet have now assumed management of Rally Sweden together with Umeå.
https://www.sbf.se/Nyheter/SvenskBil...errallysweden/
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/va...r-rally-sweden
https://emotorsport.se/nyheter.php?in=2&nyhets_id=21579
Is that a good or bad thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
I don't know to be honest. However it did say in the press release that the actual organisation (behind the rally) won't change. SBF certainly have high ambitions but we'll see if they can deliver.
So as I'm reading, we were not the only ones who had problems with the safety marshals that weekend :) We arrived on Shakedown roughly one hour before the start, and walked from the start line. We wanted to go a bit further into the middle part of the stage, but after 3 kilometres they were not letting anyone through (I heard it was the same if you walked from the finish line of the stage). So at that point, we decided not to argue, because it was Shakedown, first stage, everything still fresh and unknown, and we decided to obey, even though my friend did get shouted at and called a "fucking idiot" by the safety marshal when he crossed the road right after one of the R5 car passed by (then you know you have around 2 minutes before the next one arrives) and it's not like he was walking on the stage, he literally just crossed the road to be able to walk on the designated walking path on the other side, he was on the stage for around 3-5 seconds. Anyway, after the shakedown, on the next day, we've decided we're not going to put up with this bullshit, so we've arrived literally around 2h & 30min before the Friday morning stage start, just to make sure we can walk the stage to our designated spot without being shouted at, and so we did, because there were no marshals at that time yet, it was way early... But later during the day and also Saturday, there was one stage where we were 2 hours before the start. Yes, 2 HOURS!!! And we're walking the stage to get out from the main spectator area, because as always, we want to get to our chosen spot further in the stage. Marshals at the last control point going out from the main spectator area spotted us - immediately shouting to get back, don't go any further etc. We knew this would happen, we were prepared, and we said to each other - no matter what they say - we don't stop. I just shouted back to them - it's still 2 hours to the start, relax - and we just kept walking. There was another stage, where we were also around 1h & 30 min before the start, and as we entered the stage we started walking towards our spot again, one of the marshals started walking behind us on the stage for like 300 metres, because they were also not letting anyone go into that direction, but after 300 metres when he realised we are not stopping, he just turned around. So yeah, very fucking annoying and UNNECESSARY rules by the organisers, completely against true rally fans. I spoke to some of the safety marshals during the weekend - they were never on Rally Sweden before... So a lot of new guys, but also I think that was the way the Umea based organisers did everything - set up a few main spectator zones with car parks and don't let anybody out of it. I'm expecting the next year in Umea it will be the same, but we will be ready - just keep going and don't stop. It will be a bit worse if there will be Police, but hopefully not... In that case, some snow walking rackets will be needed to go around them 🤣
Uvåns Näringslivscenter is the local Business organisation i Värmland, where the rally used to be located.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
So it is only logical, that they now in the coming year will connect closer to local businesses in the Västerbotten region, where Umeå is the hub.
They saw this year what options they need to focus on, and money to be made!