No, there weren't any night stages in the 1993 Acropolis.Quote:
Originally Posted by feresc13
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No, there weren't any night stages in the 1993 Acropolis.Quote:
Originally Posted by feresc13
Thanks Janusz, that leaves the following classification with an extra question mark over the fate of Martini/Vitola:Quote:
Originally Posted by januszsz
11 (??) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (??) ? Roca / ? Schmidt (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (??) ? Bregagnolo / ? Spaciuk (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (??) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (??) Nelson? Sanabria / ? Bogado (PAR?) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
17 (??) ? Cravero / Ezequiel? Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
18 (??) ? Mariano / ? Manavella (ARG?) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
DQ? R? (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
19 (??) ? Sanabria / ? Rodríguez (PAR?) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (??) ? Pappalardo / ? Muhr (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (??) Alejandro Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (??) ? Morosano / ? Marquet (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45
Can anyone fill in the remaining gaps?
I seem to have a mistake there, I'll correct that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaps
RegardsQuote:
Originally Posted by kabouter
Janusz
Thank you very much Janusz!
I now hear from a very reliable source that it's indeed Jorge Saillen, and that Morosano is correct. :D
And it's #77 Alberto Martini / Gerardo Vitola (Jorge found in a magazine they retired on the last leg).
ERC 6 – 14. Bodensee-Neusiedlersee Rally 28-30 MayQuote:
Originally Posted by januszsz
1 Wilfried Gass – Frey Porsche 911S
2 Helmuth Bein – Hans-Christoph Mehmel Alpina BMW 2002
3 Carl Schindler – Gustav Hruschka Porsche 914/6
4 Heribert Neger – Sternecker BMW 2002 TI
5 Zelenka – Zelenka Ford Escort TC
6 Utz – Brust BMW 2002 TI
7 Neukom – Hopf BMW 2002 TI
8 Sergio Barbasio – Mario Manucci Lancia Fulvia HF 1600
9 Achim Warmbold – Wulf Biebinger Opel Kadett
10 Walter Lux – Hans Siebert Volkswagen Beetle 1500
Regards,
Piet
Dear Friends,
This is a copy of a post I made in the general forum, but being about history I’m posting it here too, because I hope You can help me.
I come to You, again, in the sequence of the extraordinary results obtained with the Corolla Levin (see http://rallybase.motorsportforum.com....php?t=113267), to ask for Your help.
As You know I am a modeller in 1/43 scale on the theme Portugal Rally (From TAP Rally 1967 to 2001 and WRC 2007).
I’m starting a series of Ford Escort RS 1600 and RS 2000, having taken part in the above events from the sixties and seventies, and I would profoundly appreciate if You could provide me with Images and information of Your historical databases to support the construction of my models.
As I have seen with the Corolla Levin, no one has better information than You about historical Rallying and Your help will be priceless.
From the Rally Base records I collected these examples but I know there is more:
1973 – TAP Rally of Portugal
Nº 23 Francisco Santos / João Anjos – RS 1600 Gr.2
Nº 30 Tony Fowkes / Peter O’Gorman – RS 1600 Gr.2
Nº 32 Douglas Harris / John Jeson – RS 1600 Gr.2
Nº 83 Andy Michailidis / N. Anstis – RS 1600 Gr.2
1974 – TAP Rally of Portugal
Nº 12 Chris Sclater / Neil Wilson – RS 1600 Gr.2 9th overall
Nº 34 Chris Waten / Tim Bosence – RS 1600 Gr.2 14th overall
1975 – Rally of Portugal Oporto Wine
Nº 42 Fernando Lezama / Javier Arnaiz RS 1600 Gr.2 9th overall
1976 - Rally of Portugal Oporto Wine
Nº 10 Keith Billows / Martin Holmes RS 2000 Gr.2
Nº 21 Giovanni Salvi / Pedro de Almeida RS 2000 Gr.1 7th overall
1977 - Rally of Portugal Oporto Wine
Nº 30 Giovanni Salvi / Pedro de Almeida RS 2000 Gr.1 8th overall
I have few photos from some of these cars but I’m counting on You to complete the necessary, from these and others from the period starting at 1967.
As You know the models are strictly for my private amateur collection, and, as I’ve did with the Levin, I will share with You, on the forum, photos of the finished models whenever each is completed.
Thank You very much in advance.
Best Regards.
Ciclotron
Doug Harris can be found here:
http://www.blackpalfrey.co.uk/?Club_Officials
It is Chris Wathen (not Waten). I think both Wathen and Norman Anstis were in blue and orange "Vospers of Plymouth" cars.
It is also John Jenson.
There were several Escort Twin Cams started from London (Heathrow airport hotel) in 1969 - Toney Cox? Jack Tordoff?
Could that be this John Jensen: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...driverid=10371 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FAL
Yes (it needed an "n" but I didn't check the rest!)
Hi I have found some ERC results we discussed about :
ERC 2 - Pneumant ( DDR ) 18.-21.3.1970
1. Hommel / Bork DDR Wartburg 311
2. Smorawinski / Zembrzuski PL BMW 2002
3. Gilber Casseljo / C. Olsson S Ford Capri
4. Strelow / Malsch Wartburg 311
5. Asmus / Piehler Trabant
6. Nowicki / Komorowski PL Renault 8 Gordini
7. Nielsen / Lind-Isaaksen BMW 2002
8. Ullmann / Lange Trabant
9. F.Kramer / G. Kramer Trabant
10. E. Ehrlich / D.Schone Wartburg 311
ERC 4 - Elba Rally ( I ) 2.-3.4.1971
1. Luciano Trombotto / M.Enrico I Fiat 124 Spider
2. F.Tecilla / S.Lipizier I Fiat 125 S
3. Giulio Bisulli / A.Zanuccoli I Fiat 125 S
4. Taufer / Bond Porsche 911 S
5. Bossetti / Mischiatti A Lancia Fulvia HF 1600
6. Sonda / Bertollo I Fiat 125 S
7. Arnaldo Cavallari / Simoni I Lancia Fulvia HF 1600
8. Bossetti / Ferrari I Lancia Fulvia HF 1600
9. Carello / Oberti I Fiat 124 Spider
10. Maurizio Verini / Piazza I Fiat 124 Spider
ERC 7 - ELBA ( I ) 6.-8.4.
1. L.Trombotto / M.Enrico I Fiat 124 Spider
2. S.Barbasio / P.Sodano I Lancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
3. H.Källström / G.Häggbom S Lancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
4. Verini / Quaranta I Fiat 124 Spider
5. Janger / Wessiak VW 1302 S
6. Tominz / ,,Squaw" I Fiat 124 Spider
7. Franco Ceccato / Bertollo I Fiat 128
8. Bossetti / Bocca Lancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
9. Besozzi / Brusati Lancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
10. Tony Carello / Oberti Lancia Fulvia 1,6 HF
ERC 21 - Sachs Baltic ( D ) 28.8.-1.9.
1. Reinhard Hainbach / Gerd Wiesnieuwski D Ford Capri RS
2. Jensen / Eisenberg DK Toyota Corolla
3. Kristensen / Toudal DK BMW 2002 Tii
4. Berth / Winther Nielsen DK BMW 2002 Tii
5. Jan Glad / Glad DK Opel Commodore GS/E
6. Christensen / Sidorenco DK Toyota Celica GT
7. Kelle Moller / Jensen DK BMW 2002 Tii
8. Johannes Schnoor / Blöcher D BMW 1602
9. Bindner / Andreasen Opel Ascona 1.9 SR
10. Hans Brith / Fergus Sager Fiat 124 ST
Does anyone knows the final times from 4th to 10 of Rallye YU 1993 ?
and the final position and final time of François Koopal in Golden Tulip 85 ?
Thanks
jorge
I think you mean Golden Tulip 1995? One of those eternal mysteries :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jrally
Yes, Tjeerd ! Golden Tulip 95 !Quote:
Originally Posted by kabouter
Regards
jorge
[quote="kabouter"]I'm sorry, my best guess is that it's Gerard De Boeck, possibly with a codriver named Conings, but I can't find any confirmation.[quote]
It's Geert de Boeck, he's mentioned in of the rallyworld annuals.
I'll have a look for the results next week, I'm a bit busy now with the rally of Germany. :D
Someone knows their names :
1989 - Hebros - Helmut Schwab-???? Werderich
1989 - Hebros - A??? Karklinsh-???? Gauja
1989 - Gunayidin - Andrej Geransenkov-???? Djaminov
1988 - Bianchi - ???? Lux-???? Claes
1987 - Lavantaller - J???? Winkler-E???? Winkler
1987 - Piancavallo - Massimo Piacentini-???? Dorigo
1987 - Asturias - Roland Holke-J??? Eriguren
1987 - Cataluña - Jordi Griño-A???? Estruch
Thanks in advance
Regards
jorge
1-2 maggio 1987
4° Rally de Wallonie
3. Bernt-Inge Steffansson - Matti Hakala (Volvo 240 Turbo)
Bernt without a D and Steffansson with double F.
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7-8 febbraio 1987
30° Boucles de Spa
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
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30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie
3. Mauro (not Mario) Panontin - Mauro Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)
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29-31 maggio 1987 (you've got the wrong date)
Haspengouw Rally
fia european rally championship - coeff. 1
Results:
2. Bernt-Inge Steffansson - Matti Hakala(Volvo 240 Turbo)
29-31 maggio 1987
Haspengouw Rally
fia european rally championship - coeff. 1
Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten
2. Bernt-Inge Steffansson - Matti Hakala
6. Mohammed Bin Sulayem - John Spiller
8. Jan Vandenberge
30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie
Results:
3. Mauro Panontin - Mauro Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)
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11-13 marzo 1988
38° Circuit des Ardennes
fia european rally championship - Not counting for ERC
Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (M3)
2. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Sierra Cosworth)
3. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer - Yves Bozet (Sierra Cosworth)
9- 10 aprile 1988
Belgium
Results:
1. Paul Lietaer - Herman De Maegd (Manta 400)
2. Thierry Reginster - Georges Biar (911)
3. Jean-Marc Gaban - ? Lintermans (911)
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26-27 marzo 1988
Belgium
Rally de Hannut
Results:
1. Paul Lietaer - Herman De Maegd (Manta 400)
2. Thierry Reginster - Georges Biar (911)
3. Jean-Marc Gaban - ? Lintermans (911)
(resultats for TAC and Hannut are identical)
The name is Mario Panontin not MauroQuote:
Originally Posted by Juha
About Panontin: World Rallying 9 has Mauro Panontin in the ERC final classification (with 30 points scored in Haspengouw). In the 1992 Rally New Zealand entry list is Mario Panontin (I'll correct that in RallyBase this evening). Are there two drivers named Panontin or is it a mistake in World Rallying?
It's Mario, for sure !
Regards
jorge
I'ts Mario for sure.
Mario is a friend that unfortunately I do not see from many years..
Thanks for clarify this issue, ern !
regards
jorge
Rallyworld also had him listed as "Mauro", but I'm sure you know it better being of friend of him. ;)
If you are sure that it's your friend that competed in those Belgian rallies in 1986, than the case is closed :) Thank you very much for posting on this forum and clarifying the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ern
Were these rallies selected for ERC 1972, or were they cancelled.
Otherwise does anyone have the results 1-10.
ERC 6 – Circuit of Ireland 31 March-4 April
ERC 9 - Deutschland Rallye 26-28 May
ERC 10 – Rally de Geneve 25-29 May
ERC 16 - Donau Rally 10-12 August
Thanks.
Piet
It looks not any of those rallies was a paert of ERC'72.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infiniti
Regads
Janusz
Hi Janusz, I do not know but Deutschland Rallye 26-28 May ( Pneumant ) held.
There are my results :
ERC 9 - Pneumant ( DDR )
1.S.Zasada / A.Komorowski PL Porsche 911
2.A.Smorawiński / A.Zembrzuski PL BMW 2002 Tii
3.P.Hommel / G.Bork DDR Wartburg 353
4.G.Gries / H.Würfel DDR Wartburg 353
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.R.Żyszkowski / A.Gieysztor PL Fiat 125 Polski
10.
Hello all. I'm looking for rally results before 1970. Does anyone know where I
can find these results ? Thanks in advance.
You are right, but East German Rally was not THE Deutschland Rally and I have it (Pneumant) as a 5th round of ERC'72 and different date: March 15-18th.Quote:
Originally Posted by jirka rk
Regards
Janusz
I think your best chance is to post questions here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmrf
Ok. In fact I'm only trying to identifying pictures to my archive. I'll post themQuote:
Originally Posted by Martin Liddle
here when feel dificult to identify.
Hello, who can help me with old results of Rally Tatry ( Czechoslovakia and now Slovakia )? I am looking for results from 1975 to 1988. Usually I have only top ten. The worst is year 1977 where I have only top 3. Thank you in advance.
At first instance excuse me if my question gets repetitive, but I've been searching for some dates of rallys from 1969 and I didn't find out anything.
I would like to know dates of Rally San Remo 1969, Rally Morocco 1969 and RAC Rally 1969. Thanks in advanced
San Remo 69 - 5.-9. March
RAC 69 - 14.-21. November
Actual running time for RAC would have been 5 days then (one night halt only, after the third day). Dates overall may include scrutineering/route issuing (route available only one day before start then) and prizegiving the day after the finish.
7. Rallye Tatry 75-09-28 75-09-29Quote:
Originally Posted by jirka rk
01 Andrzej Jaroszewicz / Ryszard Żyszkowski -PL- Fiat Abarth 124 Spyder gr.4 7469
02 Błażej Krupa / Piotr Mystkowski -PL- Renault R12 Gordini 7681
03 Ilia Tchoubrikov / Kiro Kirov -BG- Renault R12 Gordini 7729
04 Vaclav Blahna / Lubislav Hlavka -CS- Skoda 120 S gr.2 7874
05 Stasys Brundza / Anatoli Brum -SU- Moskvitsh 412 gr.2 7953
06 ? Meyer / ? Weisenberger -A- Volvo 142 S gr.? 8042
07 Attila Ferjancz / Ferenc Iriczfalvi -H- Alpine-Renault A110 gr.? 8052
08 ? Kopejsko / Jan Soukup -CS- Skoda 120 S gr.2 8054
09 Bengt Lundström / Fergus Sager -S- Toyota Celica gr.? 8185
10 Vitali Sprukt / Vladimir? Ivliev? -SU- Moskvitsh 412 gr.2 8291
10? Frantisek Udlinek / Jiri Pavlovsky -CS- Skoda ???
Different sources give different drivers in the 10th position.
01 Vladimir Hubacek / Stanislav Minarik -CS- Alpine-Renault A110 1600 gr.? 9734
02 John Haugland / Bruno Berglund-N/S- Skoda 130RS gr.2 9946
03 Maciej Stawowiak / Jan Czyżyk -PL- Fiat Abarth 124 Spyder gr.4 9980
04 Jiri Sedivy / Jiri Janecek -CS- Skoda 130RS gr.2 10144
05 Svatopluk Kvaizar / Jiri Kotek -CS- Skoda 130RS gr.2 10162
06 Bengt Lundström / Fergus Sager -S- Toyota Celica 10166
07 Miroslav Zapadlo / Jiri Motal -CS- Skoda 130RS gr.2 10373
08 Vaclav Blahna / Lubislav Hlavka -CS- Skoda 130RS gr.2 10409
09 Leo Pavlik / Oldrich Gottfried -CS- Skoda 130RS gr. 2 10540
10 Sergiei Jelizarov / Viljus Rozukas -SU- Lada 1600 gr.2
That's it for now.
Janusz