Fuel issue- No penalty for BMW/Williams- McLaren to appeal

An absolute joke, you couldn't make it up, ( well actually you could). I've completely lost faith in the sport and F1A. As much as I wanted Hamilton to win it, this isn't the way, however there are precedents. Remember 1986 WRC and Markku Alen was champion for about 10-12 days, then San Remo results were anulled. I just hope the F1A become more transparent regarding rules and consistent with the applying of them. At the moment there are different penalties all seemingly on a whim; team, drivers, fines, etc; Nobody knows were they stand, a mess.

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Originally Posted by Hawkmoon

Secondly, the issue is not whether the fuel was over the 10 degree limit, but rather how accurate the taken measurements were. Clouding the issue is that there appeared to be a discrepancy between the FOM temperature reading and that of the FIA appointed weatherman. The regulations do not state which temperature is the only one to be used, further clouding the issue.

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This alone should stop any appeal. With such a loosely written regulation it's obvious there are going to be discrepancies.

Aren't the fueling rigs regulated and controlled by the FIA? I would think that they would simply supply a standard cooler with appropriate temperature monitoring devices. Done properly they could easily make sure all cars run fuel at the same temp all the time.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

An absolute joke, you couldn't make it up, ( well actually you could). I've completely lost faith in the sport and F1A. As much as I wanted Hamilton to win it, this isn't the way, however there are precedents. Remember 1986 WRC and Markku Alen was champion for about 10-12 days, then San Remo results were anulled. I just hope the F1A become more transparent regarding rules and consistent with the applying of them. At the moment there are different penalties all seemingly on a whim; team, drivers, fines, etc; Nobody knows were they stand, a mess.

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It won't happen. The results will stand as is.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

It won't happen. The results will stand as is.

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Well, you would think...but with the FIA ,Max and Benie...

I would think it would be crazy, but then they did appoint the scrutineers.....but if they stop and think from the money point of view, they will have completely screwed themselves for at least a year or two, and leaving no doubts about what is really the goal of the "leaders"...

And hey if 22k was okay for RD for the use of the tires, then 22k per car ought to be okay for RD as well on the fuel...so I say put the money on the table, and let us go home.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

It won't happen. The results will stand as is.

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I fully expect it to stand, my problem is with the handing out of penalties, and how they decide on the severity. It seems to be arbitury, no consistentcy. Surely the time has come to re write the penalties and punishments. Say BMW and Williams had been thrown out team and drivers; what about the McLaren team being penalised but the drivers weren't, then on Friday McLaren are fined, no consistency, as if they are decided on a whim.

This appeal is utterly ridiculous. It ought to be thrown out straight away and not even discussed. The decision has been made and Raikkonen should be champion. If Hamilton hadn't made a mistake and then had a technical problem, this probably wouldn't even be an issue. It was an apparent bit of McLaren unreliability that cost Hamilton the title, so for the team to launch an appeal aimed at winning him the title now is pushing things much too far.

"It would be a joke, and we've had too many already," he told Spanish radio station Cadena Ser. "If something like that happened, it would end up burying the sport."

- Fernando Alonso

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63581

Very good point.

Why are they appealing? Does Hamilton want to win it in the court...idiotic.

Fact is, he made 2 big mistakes in the last 2 races to lose a 17 point lead and also had bad luck with gearbox (finally had to have had some bad luck) and Kimi (and Massa too ;) ) did a better job and won it.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

This appeal is utterly ridiculous. It ought to be thrown out straight away and not even discussed. The decision has been made and Raikkonen should be champion. If Hamilton hadn't made a mistake and then had a technical problem, this probably wouldn't even be an issue. It was an apparent bit of McLaren unreliability that cost Hamilton the title, so for the team to launch an appeal aimed at winning him the title now is pushing things much too far.

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Especially considering the fact that they are lucky to still be fielding cars in the 07 and 08 seasons.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Especially considering the fact that they are lucky to still be fielding cars in the 07 and 08 seasons.

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Quite, although that was as a result of a similarly arbitrary decision that didn't go their way. Now they want another one to go in their favour. Not the best move.