Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-)

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Originally Posted by lmmjvss

I know... I know... but Lets see for 'how long' they will continue in WRC (and how many less cars we are going to have in the top class for 2022 and 2023)

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We do not know how long they will stay. But we do know they would leave WRC right now if hybrids wouldn’t come.

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Originally Posted by drive

That is yes, but what comes in has to go out somewhere - that is the question Where?

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Originally Posted by bomber21

We do not know how long they will stay. But we do know they would leave WRC right now if hybrids wouldn’t come.

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I know its not comparable but World Rallycross lost audi, ford, vw and peugeot in 2018. Both 2019 and 2020 seasons without manufactures were WAY better. Rally2 cars would become the fastest cars out there. But it could also go very badly like "Oh, now theres a few toyotas racing alone on the front" (wec)

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Originally Posted by lmmjvss

I know its not comparable but World Rallycross lost audi, ford, vw and peugeot in 2018. Both 2019 and 2020 seasons without manufactures were WAY better. Rally2 cars would become the fastest cars out there. But it could also go very badly like "Oh, now theres a few toyotas racing alone on the front" (wec)

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The whole WRC circus is paid by manufacturers and their rich sponsors. Without them WRC will quickly become another ERC with few overseas evens where nobody goes. ERC in turn will suffer as well because the same pool of privateers can't keep two major series alive in the same time.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

The whole WRC circus is paid by manufacturers and their rich sponsors. Without them WRC will quickly become another ERC with few overseas evens where nobody goes. ERC in turn will suffer as well because the same pool of privateers can't keep two major series alive in the same time.

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Hmmm I guess this is true. But imagine a Monte Carlo rally where "any rally2 car" could have a shot to win, for example. That'd be interesting. Same for big rallies like Acropolis, Sweden, Finland... maybe Safari too? haha Idk, just chatting here. Inside our head we have the solutions for all the problems but in real life its not like that.. saddly

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Originally Posted by Mirek

The whole WRC circus is paid by manufacturers and their rich sponsors. Without them WRC will quickly become another ERC with few overseas evens where nobody goes. ERC in turn will suffer as well because the same pool of privateers can't keep two major series alive in the same time.

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Yet, perhaps the greatest championships we have seen in the last 20 years were the IRC years. When we had so many different cars and so many privateers.

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Originally Posted by lmmjvss

Hmmm I guess this is true. But imagine a Monte Carlo rally where "any rally2 car" could have a shot to win, for example. That'd be interesting. Same for big rallies like Acropolis, Sweden, Finland... maybe Safari too? haha Idk, just chatting here. Inside our head we have the solutions for all the problems but in real life its not like that.. saddly

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You are describing an IRC series, but then again we had Skoda etc taking part in the series

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Originally Posted by lmmjvss

I know its not comparable but World Rallycross lost audi, ford, vw and peugeot in 2018. Both 2019 and 2020 seasons without manufactures were WAY better. Rally2 cars would become the fastest cars out there. But it could also go very badly like "Oh, now theres a few toyotas racing alone on the front" (wec)

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I followed WRX when it was Solberg, Loeb, Kristoffer son. Ekstrom, Block..
When manus and almost all these stopped I stopped. Got a bit too much second rate drivers feeling.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

Yet, perhaps the greatest championships we have seen in the last 20 years were the IRC years. When we had so many different cars and so many privateers.

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IRC was good first two years...then Skoda completely dominated it and fun was over. Whether it was due to money or just good work I am not so sure. Prbly both.

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Originally Posted by pedro16

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Also the Hyundai seems to use the space of the old rear diffuser for the air vent. In this location, it can help to remove air from under the car, same principle as with the exhaust gases on top of the diffuser (exhaust blown diffuser)... it will depend on how fast hot air can be removed from the inside of the car, with the help of fans after the rear radiator