2015 Monaco Grand Prix Thread

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Dunno about a conspiracy but the most obvious collective case of brain fart I can remember ever seeing

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Let's just call it home field advantage then, because their is something rotten in the state of Monaco :angryfire :confused: :angel:

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Originally Posted by N4D13

Well, feel free to hate on me everyone, but I think Hamilton is just being a moron right now. He's obviously got every right to be sad, but F1 is a team sport and sometimes the team also makes mistakes. I don't think such a fuss would have been made had his engine just given up, even though it would have netted him 0 points instead of a podium. I think he needs to man up instead of acting like a spoiled brat.

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This is nothing like an engine expiring. This is complete and total incompetence. From everything I've read thus far, Hamilton has handled himself with complete professionalism. Unless I hear that he threw something or bitch slapped someone in the debrief, as far as I'm concerned, he is a man who doesn't snap under a completely wrong circumstance.

And could please you explain what "man up" means? I don't understand that at all.

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Originally Posted by N4D13

Well, feel free to hate on me everyone, but I think Hamilton is just being a moron right now. He's obviously got every right to be sad, but F1 is a team sport and sometimes the team also makes mistakes. I don't think such a fuss would have been made had his engine just given up, even though it would have netted him 0 points instead of a podium. I think he needs to man up instead of acting like a spoiled brat.

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Just pointing out that I wrote this before the podium ceremony, in reference to his stopping the car on track, driving dead slow in the cooldown lap, knocking down the 3rd place sign or walking away from the podium and being asked by the FIA chief press officer, or whatever his title is, to come back. That's what I found childish about his behaviour. He had all the right to be upset, but this was just throwing his toys out of the pram.

That said, I think that the way he kept his composure in the podium was commendable. I also find that Brundle asking him how bad he felt was pretty low and that Martin should feel embarrassed; but Lewis gave a very nice reply.

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Originally Posted by N4D13

Just pointing out that I wrote this before the podium ceremony, in reference to his stopping the car on track, driving dead slow in the cooldown lap, knocking down the 3rd place sign or walking away from the podium and being asked by the FIA chief press officer, or whatever his title is, to come back. That's what I found childish about his behaviour. He had all the right to be upset, but this was just throwing his toys out of the pram.

That said, I think that the way he kept his composure in the podium was commendable. I also find that Brundle asking him how bad he felt was pretty low and that Martin should feel embarrassed; but Lewis gave a very nice reply.

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Way to man up dawg!!:bandit:

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

This is nothing like an engine expiring. This is complete and total incompetence. From everything I've read thus far, Hamilton has handled himself with complete professionalism. Unless I hear that he threw something or bitch slapped someone in the debrief, as far as I'm concerned, he is a man who doesn't snap under a completely wrong circumstance.

And could please you explain what "man up" means? I don't understand that at all.

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It's something people say to me a lot - usually if I were to ever to show the slightest dissatisfaction with anything, no matter how serious. It seems to mean stop being a weak child and grow up and act like a man!

With me and with Lewis, it seems that some people have very high standards for maturity. I only hope they apply those standards to themselves as well.

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Originally Posted by N4D13

Just pointing out that I wrote this before the podium ceremony, in reference to his stopping the car on track, driving dead slow in the cooldown lap, knocking down the 3rd place sign or walking away from the podium and being asked by the FIA chief press officer, or whatever his title is, to come back. That's what I found childish about his behaviour. He had all the right to be upset, but this was just throwing his toys out of the pram.

That said, I think that the way he kept his composure in the podium was commendable. I also find that Brundle asking him how bad he felt was pretty low and that Martin should feel embarrassed; but Lewis gave a very nice reply.

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Slowing down to collect himself is pretty understandable given the circumstances. He was probably livid given what had happened. I'd probably have done the same thing myself. He's experienced enough to know that he needs to not say things in the heat of the moment that he might regret. I think he hit the 3rd place sign, don't think it was knocked - no big deal. You're just picking on nothing.

If that was all he did, I think he handled having his race victory gifted to Rosberg about as well as any man could. I thought maybe he did the "Danica Stomp" down the pitlane or kicked Toto Wolff in the groin or tried to yank off Niki Lauda's remaining ear... something like that. But Pastor Maldonado, on cold, worn out rain tires, with Sam Michael as his race engineer, could have won that race under the same circumstance in that closing stage. So if that's all he did, good on him.

I've been watching racing since the 1970's. And I'm searching my memory bank to see if I can recall anything even close to what I just witnessed. I wonder who is updating his resume at Mercedes AMG right now though.

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Originally Posted by rjbetty

It's something people say to me a lot - usually if I were to ever to show the slightest dissatisfaction with anything, no matter how serious. It seems to mean stop being a weak child and grow up and act like a man!

With me and with Lewis, it seems that some people have very high standards for maturity. I only hope they apply those standards to themselves as well.

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I agree with you, in that some people seem to have very high (unrealistic) standards of maturity, when they, themselves, would likely act much worse in similar circumstances.

The way I see it, if Lewis didn't knock any of the Mercedes team on their butts after that, he handled himself well. That was nothing but sheer incompetence with an added dose of stupidity. I felt robbed that my coverage didn't show the podium ceremony, so I can't comment first hand yet. But IMO Nico should have limited celebration and put Lewis on the top step with him.

I bet Ferrari are loving crap like Mercedes just did.

Trouble with getting Lewis on the top step with him is that you end with an Austria 2002 situation on your hands. Chaos.

Lets be fair, as stupid as this was. Nico did nothing wrong and he won the race. Whether is was a Lewis error, team error, mechanical failure.......


Nico won and celebrated accordingly and like Lewis said all the right things for the team.