If this is going to be another 1-stopping race, then perhaps we can assume Pirelli got a bit soft due to all this criticism they received and have already designed a bit more "normal" and durable tyres.
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If this is going to be another 1-stopping race, then perhaps we can assume Pirelli got a bit soft due to all this criticism they received and have already designed a bit more "normal" and durable tyres.
I agree, tire management has been around for years. Ever since refueling was made illegal even more than in the past. During the days of refueling tires could be changed with fuel strategy regardless, and fuel strategy dictated a lot more of more race strategies IMO.
They were told to slow "conserve fuel" - euphemism for team orders. Up in arms? They drove flat out for two thirds of the race and when they went wheel to wheel they were told to hold station.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
The reason why the Bridgestones and could be pushed at the end of the stint was in part of the fuel effect: fuel lessens, less weight thus the tyres can be pushed and the lap times tumble. Degradation is so bad you can't do that with the Pirellis. Drivers are scared of the "edge of the cliff" whereby the grip completely goes away and the laps times shoots skywards.
Tyre management should be about when to conserve and attack but with the Pirellis conservation is of greater importance.
Cue complaints about the tyres as Alonso goes backwards attempting a one stopper.
Blame the strategy, not the tyres.
Two people made it onto the podium with a one-stop strategy: there's nothing wrong with the tyres, whatsoever.
Never has racing to delta time been as prevalent in F1 as now. Never. You might have seen it in some races in times gone by, but never to such degree as you are seeing it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
BTW: you actually enjoy racing to delta time more than flat-out pushing to limit? I have no words to describe what I think of that if you do.
I am the HIGHEST authority when it comes to voicing my own opinion and I will keep doing that. You can keep voicing your opinion as can everyone else. In other words, you are free to kiss something that I have and which means the same as donkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Yeah, I guess some like seeing the best drivers in world struggle because their tyres are dead after 8 laps, I guess some like artificial racing, I guess WWF is a real sport to some people as well.Quote:
I watch F1 since 1992 and can't remember being so entertained as in the first races of the season. However, it looks that Montreal will be again one-stopper, so we are back to days of dull, predictable racing. I hope that you are happy about that. I am glad that there is GT racing this weekend.
BTW: You said DTM is pure racing and I called you up on it, I will ask again, how is DTM pure racing?
You are thinking of one race, where there were about 15 races which were completely opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
BTW: actually you are thinking of Turkey 2010 I think, the race where Hamilton started racing to delta after Bieber rammed out his teammate and McLaren were 1-2 leading by a huge margin. Yeah, that is exactly like the last couple of races have been. That is completely normal to take it easy once you are leading by a clear margin.
Today the tyres were not like they were in some other races. Very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Do you even understand what people are complaining about or do you just lash out at anyone who dares to interrupt your teenage love affair with these tyres?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Today was a badly calculated risk by Ferrari and no one will complain about tyres lasting when someone attempts to do a stint of over 50 laps on them.
Think a bit.
Today was very clearly far different from most races this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
They're all unique. I think that more and more teams and drivers are beginning to understand the tyres and how to get the best out of them. Alonso and Ferrari took a gamble which didn't work, Vettel and RBR did the same but knew when to go to plan B and salvage a position, Perez and Grosjean made it work for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Fantastic strategy used today by different drivers, the tyres were great. 2 stops and 1 stops could work and teams trying 1 stops differing ways around.
In case I get moaned at.
:D
No major problem with tyres although in one race I forget which we had 4 odd stops may have been slightly to many, but they have added a good element to F1 if there are different strategies that can work.
Just DRS. So no having a go at me for being a combined DRS & tyre hater. Just the one. Unlike some who hate both. ;)
So what was different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
1) Pirelli brought completely different tyres to Canada
2) Same tyres as before but the teams & drivers are learning how to manage them better
3) Something else