Who to replace Latvala in Argentina?

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Originally Posted by Kielder

On tarmac, as always. Portugal was a mirage due to start order. Sordo got his second positions on gravel for several reasons (in a similar way as the Ostberg's win in Portugal), having never the speed of the winner. Evolving is what Ogier did last year.

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Maybe not the winner on all surfaces, but is very competitive everywhere - even in Sweden which is event for specialist drivers (nordic). And you can't beat others by minute if you're slow, even if you have good road position. Sordo has evolved and I'm sure he will show it in Argentina. Very underrated driver, but Wilson did a good move. Hopefully he will be in works team next year. Ogier is fast, but has too many accidents on his belt. Or maybe I'm mistaken and Mini is really that good.

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Originally Posted by noel157

So arrive and drive price €150k for one European event, extra for testing. Think last year Sordo was talking €1m for 10 or so European events in the Fiesta.
So buy in bulk...........

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Must be crazy to give all that money in low profile sport.

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Originally Posted by noel157

Yep, good move but Sordo is perhaps faster than Hirvonen.

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Sordo driving on gravel is a fake.... He will be ever a good 2nd driver and never a good 1st driver....

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

they started equal... Citroens policy was that all drivers start equal but whoever gets a safe lead in points becomes the No1... that No1-No2 was just propaganda from the bitter losers... Ogiers wins early in the season proved that last year.

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You're right. They were equal. At least until Loeb started to flirt with Volkswaggen and blackmailing Citroen with leaving the team if he will not be no. 1.

To N.O.T: Sotirhos is a very fast driver in tarmac, faster than most of the pirelli drivers in Tarmac. His disadvantage was that he has no experience in gravel. Having good memory is good. What is best is to write good pace notes and trust them. Don't be so critical about Greek drivers..

Don't compare just the price, if you don't know the accident excess and-or the pre event test. It can go from 120 to 190 depending on those parameters

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Originally Posted by GINE

Don't be so critical about Greek drivers..

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It is very hard not to... from as long as i remember every greek "rally driver" and their grandmother has the potential to become world class but somehow they all have failed...and it is not because they lack skills but due to some magical unexplained force.

To become a world class driver you need a lot of money, time and it is easier if you are Finnish or French. Being Greek is very difficult. But please don't be so cruel. It is easier to criticise as a spectator than to be in a car and try to be fast. Don't underestimate the effort of a lot of drivers. Greek or nonGreek...

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Originally Posted by GINE

To become a world class driver you need a lot of money, time and it is easier if you are Finnish or French. Being Greek is very difficult. But please don't be so cruel. It is easier to criticise as a spectator than to be in a car and try to be fast. Don't underestimate the effort of a lot of drivers. Greek or nonGreek...

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I do not think that money is the main problem... neither is time.

Nobody said it is easy to be fast, it needs very hard work, dedication and be at the right place in the right time....but so does everything in life to be successful... rally driving is no different than the other sports or even professions.

When you are exposed to public in any way and weather the people you are exposed to are 10 or 100000000... critisism is inevitable when someone does something better than you or you do something better than the rest...

Nobody asked to have a WRC manufacturer driver... but to have a good representative in IRC or even in ERC is a very realistic target...but in Greece we prefer to be champions in everything we do only in words and in the relative media.

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Originally Posted by Crocone

You're right. They were equal. At least until Loeb started to flirt with Volkswaggen and blackmailing Citroen with leaving the team if he will not be no. 1.

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It was Quesnel that gave them equal status. I often wonder if Loebs new contract one of the requirements to him staying was that Quesnel had to leave, it was funny how he left at the end of the season!