Sutil will stand trial in a German court later this month

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Originally Posted by CNR

more chance of it being true not long after it happened

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I hope you never end up on a jury. Come to think of it, I hope an awful lot of people never end up on a jury.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Hold on , Arrows .
Would this be a source of the pressure that Lewis may have been under to not show up ?

Could this explain the choice of the words used by the Sutils , in reference to Lewis being afraid of speaking up so as not to upset Lux further , ending up with a law suit , himself ?

This theory does seem to fit as well , as not wanting to stand up to Lux could evoke the same sort of response .
It fits with the reported conversation that they had before the incident , where Lux was seemingly "pulling rank" on Sutil , with his retort "Don't you know I'm an F1 team owner " .

With a fresh contract in the works , neither the lie theory , or this pressure theory , should be written off entirely .
Either could be the answer .

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And why do you care?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

And why do you care?

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I'm interested in what makes all these guys tick , as they say .

Does it matter why ?
I've followed this sport for a long time now .
The drama that goes on in the background often finds it's way onto the track , and it's good to know some of those details when watching these guys race .


At the centre of this is the extreme difference between the bravery of an F1 driver of Lewis's calibre(ie-HIGH) , and the word he was called .
It doesn't fit .
It's a mystery at this point .

I like a good mystery .
At this point in the story , I happen to think the butler was innocent .


Why do you care why I care ?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

I'm interested in what makes all these guys tick...

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Really? More than 40 posts written in a thread about Adrian Sutil's trial and you have shown little or no interest in Adrian Sutil, his actions or responsibility for what happened.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Really? More than 40 posts written in a thread about Adrian Sutil's trial and you have shown little or no interest in Adrian Sutil, his actions or responsibility for what happened.

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Yeah , really .

This is all about his responsibility for what happened .
It's what the appeal is about .

It's not about whether he did it .
It's about whether the punishment fits the crime .

Like I've stated earlier in this thread , I don't think Adrian's arms are long enough for him to have been the only aggressor in the incident .

Adam Cooper , having seen the CCTV footage , didn't feel the punishment fit the crime either .

The Sutils being as upset as they seem doesn't fit either .

2+2 = ?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

I'm interested in what makes all these guys tick , as they say .

Does it matter why ?
I've followed this sport for a long time now .
The drama that goes on in the background often finds it's way onto the track , and it's good to know some of those details when watching these guys race .


At the centre of this is the extreme difference between the bravery of an F1 driver of Lewis's calibre(ie-HIGH) , and the word he was called .
It doesn't fit .
It's a mystery at this point .

I like a good mystery .
At this point in the story , I happen to think the butler was innocent .


Why do you care why I care ?

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OK, OK, the cat's out the bag.

It was the impending end of a bro-mance with Sutil that was Hammy's downfall last year. And it was all of Lady Macbeth/Nicole's fault!

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Originally Posted by wedge

OK, OK, the cat's out the bag.

It was the impending end of a bro-mance with Sutil that was Hammy's downfall last year. And it was all of Lady Macbeth/Nicole's fault!

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So , that must mean that he and Nicole are getting married the day of the appeal that he's booked in to testify , and that's why he can't appear !

How on earth did you find this out , Wedge ?


By the way , I have three black cats , and all of them are in right now , just for the record .

Let's say I'm impressed how Hamilton's die hard fans are against him being seen as fishy after what he previously did both on and off the track.
I'm also pretty sure Hamy will shoot himself in the foot again pretty soon and all his die hard fans will have another opportunity to show their dedication to cleaning his image.

Meanwhile I find it difficult to digest that people care less about having someone on the brink of having his life destroyed then the image of a guy with Lewis' record vs truth.
Just my opinion, you can shoot now. :D

PS: All I care about is to have the justice served with full knowledge of all the events from all those involved.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Let's say I'm impressed how Hamilton's die hard fans are against him being seen as fishy after what he previously did both on and off the track.
I'm also pretty sure Hamy will shoot himself in the foot again pretty soon and all his die hard fans will have another opportunity to show their dedication to cleaning his image.

Meanwhile I find it difficult to digest that people care less about having someone on the brink of having his life destroyed then the image of a guy with Lewis' record vs truth.
Just my opinion, you can shoot now. :D

PS: All I care about is to have the justice served with full knowledge of all the events from all those involved.

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Leave out the sanctimonious claptrap, ioan. You have no knowledge of what happened; therefore, why insinuate that someone was involved who may very well not have been? Unless you are privy to information withheld from the rest of us, you are as utterly ignorant on the matter as anyone else who didn't see the incident. In no way can you suggest otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ioan

All I care about is to have the justice served with full knowledge of all the events from all those involved.

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The rest of your post makes that crystal clear :p