Do You Know the Real Islam?

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Religion. Some dude turns up preaching tolerance and love, then mankind spends the next two thousand years kicking the crap out of each other because they can't agree on exactly how he said it.

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yep-- there is getting stoned :s mokin: and there is gettin stoned :arrows:

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Religion. Some dude turns up preaching tolerance and love, then mankind spends the next two thousand years kicking the crap out of each other because they can't agree on exactly how he said it.

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Tolerance and love don't belong in the same sentence, at least in this context. You love somebody close to you or related to you, but you tolerate somebody who might be venemently opposing your views, giving you hard time and otherwise being on different pages with you. When I have to tolerate somebody, it's the first indication for me I might have a reason not to fell in love with the guy or gal. There are different auidiences for love and tolerance.

To me there are two types of people who get on my nerves. One is intolerant people, full of themselves and hostile to everything different from what they are used to. Another is people who mix love and tolerance. What they achieve is making themselves and their beloved ones a soft target for bad guys who never hesitate to take full advantage of that lovey-dovey thing.

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Originally Posted by henners88

The images in that link are quite sickening but not because the group in them are gay. Any form of public sexual activity that displays itself for the purpose of offending someone is classed as sickening IMO. .

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but of course, El Donko would like this..... :imubash: he watches that stuff all the time, so says his momma

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Originally Posted by henners88

So true lol. No religion is superior IMO, and all contribute to the problems in the world but I respect anyone who feels it improves their life whether I think its a load of made up rubbish or not. Its their choice at the end of the day. :)

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Now I do got to agree with you, but being that I ain't no cross eyed Islamic type, so what??

But there you go saying....no religion is superior.........all contribute to the problems......i think it is a load of made up rubbish

all i can is tell you there was this Cartoonist who was not as blunt as you and made a couple of really funny jokes and it got him some street Jihad that left him cold stone dead.

So maybe folks might want to keep some distance from you, just in case one of them stone chuckers can't throw and one of them folks gets a stone to the head from standing too close

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Best that henners be getting thick as well. Sooner the better, as the thicker the skin, the less those stones gonna hurt when you forget yourself and start muttering some sort of anti-religous stuff that might offend the sensibilities of some Islams......

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Yep, I no more than warn you to watch out on that muttering, and there you go again.... :vader:

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Originally Posted by henners88

So true lol. No religion is superior IMO, and all contribute to the problems in the world but I respect anyone who feels it improves their life whether I think its a load of made up rubbish or not. Its their choice at the end of the day. :)

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As someone famous once said, ask not for whom the stone is thrown, it's thrown at you :eek:

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Of course nobody has ever used the Bible to justify their violence, wars, child abuse, murder, homophobia or genocide. Oh....

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Sources?

How many Christians have strapped bombs on themselves and blown up people at funerals, church services and the such?

Give me comparison numbers if you are going to say there is no differnence.

Talk is cheap, so give me some not so cheap proof.

Oh it also seems Christian leader speak out against those who crap on their faith by using it for immoral purposes; where are the large protests by U.S. muslims against the murdering trash that is supposedly crapping on their religion?
Either the press is not covering it, or it simply is not happening.
There have been a few singylar Muslims trying to expose the vile dogma being taught in Muslim schools but beyond NPR or PBS they are pretty much ignored becuase no major news outlet, it seems, wants to take a chance of upsetting the majority of muslims and suffering their wrath, or showing how different their favorite target of ridicule, conservative Christians, are from the Muslim.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Sources?

How many Christians have strapped bombs on themselves and blown up people at funerals, church services and the such?

Give me comparison numbers if you are going to say there is no differnence.

Talk is cheap, so give me some not so cheap proof.

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You better keep looking for a lot of those bomber christians, maybe that will convince people to forget the crusades. Church endorsed of course. The majority convicted in the abortion clinic related terror acts were also "Christians".

Based on your shallow stereotypes of Muslims, you must bomb abortion clinics.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

You better keep looking for a lot of those bomber christians, maybe that will convince people to forget the crusades. Church endorsed of course. The majority convicted in the abortion clinic related terror acts were also "Christians".

Based on your shallow stereotypes of Muslims, you must bomb abortion clinics.

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Crudades- the cry of a desperation when they have nothing to use.

How many abortian clinics were bombed?
Death count of these Christian bombers compared to Muslim bombers for the past six months, or you can compare totals from the day of the clinic bombing up to today.

If I lived in America then the Christian right would worry me more than the Muslim extremists.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Crudades- the cry of a desperation when they have nothing to use.

How many abortian clinics were bombed?
Death count of these Christian bombers compared to Muslim bombers for the past six months, or you can compare totals from the day of the clinic bombing up to today.

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I don't see any desperation about referring to the Crusades - deluded Christians forcing their religion down peoples' throats and slitting them if they refused to listen.

Aside from henners' eloquent post about the IRA, how many needless deaths are caused by the Pope telling pooly educated Africans that they mustn't use condoms, contributing to the massive spread of HIV? Or how many deaths can be traced back to Bush and Blair claiming they were doing God's work by poking their unwanted beaks into Iraq? Add to this the untold misery caused by people choosing to interpret the bible to justify their bigotry, homophobia, sexism (how many women priests are there?); or to tell rape victims they can't have abortions?

It's important to keep in mind I'm not accusing all Christians of this, that would be unfounded and stupid. The majority of them are perfectly decent people, just like the majority of Muslims or whoever else. It's the extreme views in any religion which cause the problems.