Maybe he's happy about ex citroen driver who helped them to gain some titles.
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Maybe he's happy about ex citroen driver who helped them to gain some titles.
Or maybe just acting like a douche.
I don't consider this press conference to indicate anything. I think you are reading them wrong. Please explain the motive for Ogier to change to a team who hasn't won a single event that can be attributed to a strong engine performance during the last 3 years? Excluding Finland and Sweden, where the Finns are naturally very strong, all wins coincide with crashes or other adverse factors for Citroen.
So what is the motive? What type of restrictions you assume Ogier will have in 2012 which he can not accept? Has Ford demanded a horse-deal to get Ogier in order to stay for the coming season?
I just don't see the logic.
I agree +1. Can anyone post a link to this amazing press conference so I can try to read between the lines as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
I just cannot see why Mikko & Ogier would want to play musical chairs. Neither benefits long term.
Mikko would be ASSURED as number 2 and never be equal to Loeb. Ever. Mikko could only be allowed to win if Loeb crashed or was not traditionally strong on the event (Sweden, Finland). The only (unlikely) light at the end of the tunnel would be moving into the Number 1 position when Loeb went and winning a swansong title before Citroen left the sport (Quensel has been quoted as saying that Citroen's presence in the sport somewhat dependent on having Loeb as a driver)
Ogier would be moving to a team with a weak car that would not be a winner on tarmac and many gravel based events & he would be partnered with Latvala who would not accept anything less than parity with him. Perhaps Ogier would just stay at Ford until Loeb left then bounce back in to Citroen.
The only reason that can make any sense is if Loeb put up an ultimatum that one leaves Citroen for 2012, either him or Ogier. This is obviously what he wanted to happen as of his comments to Ogier in 2010, suggesting him to go to Ford, before Ogier signed the contract. And that opinion would certainly not change after what happened this season. So it's not so far fetched. And the PSA board would support it.
Loeb is as we know extremely in character, humble and supportive of a fair game. But the observant one would note how seemingly smooth he accepted the Quesnel-plot building over the first half of the season, did in reality not go by him easily. But he's not the one to blink the eye twice over such a situation, in the public... This he leaves for the back-room. And his show of strength would come when he got the upper hand, negotiating the next contract.
This is imo the only sensible explanation, if the Ogier/Ford rumor turns out to be true.
Plan9,
It's the post rally press conference;
World Rally Championship - Video - Browse All - France 2011: Post-rally Press Conference
From what i have heard, and this is a ruomour!!! The reason for Ogier leaving is that when he signed the contract with Citroen he was granted equal status in the team, BUT Ogiers contract is with Citroen sport(Quesnel) whereas again when Loeb signed the contract before Germany it was with PSA, and highest ranking man in the company and also without Quesnels knowledge, and Loebs contract states he is number 1 in the team. In this case PSA oversees C-sport so Loeb got his way.Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
This also means Ogiers contract is basially violated so no buy out or anything is needed from Fords end.
I say again this is a rumour as I (or anyone else in these forums won`t probably ever get to read these contracts.).
And strong "rumours" say all contracts for next year are already signed with the switch Og<->Hi made?
I think your post make sence, Loeb would not have sign a contract where he would not be the nr1 driver, also there is no guarantee that Citroen continiue in rally after Loebs contract runs out, so its much possible that Ogier might move else where.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
Citroen's current commitment is only to end of 2013 championship - the same as Loeb's deal.
So there are paper champions and paper champions. Others fix the results in the events whereas Seb 1.0 does the same and more with one piece of paper.
What is this guys? Ogier to Ford?
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