4 degrees of camber

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Originally Posted by aki13

Sorry don't quite understand your posts Mia.

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Same here. I've had a gastric flu for the last 4 days and I thought it might be nice to come on here and get away from the diarrhea....... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by henners88

I really don't understand your problem with Pirelli at all??? :confused:

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Don't worry, sometimes it's just not there for you to understand.

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Originally Posted by aki13

I think Ioan worked for Pirelli and was sacked when his radical new idea for a tyre compound was deemed inferior to the other Pirelli lines.

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Good one! :up:
But no I would never wok for a rubber making company! :laugh: Especially bad quality rubber! ;)

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

I believe they either need to regulate this , or leave it alone entirely .

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Would it be OK to regulate the setups that were left alone until now?
Isn't F1 already over-regulated?

Maybe now henners' also understands why I have a problem with the way Pirelli tries to push F1 into the wrong direction? One can hope.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

If they re-design , to fit with more radical camber angles , the teams will only push farther into the unknown , making the issue a vicious circle , with the eventuality being that the safety will be compromised at some point to a much higher degree .

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There is a limit over which the teams have no interest to push the camber angle as they would be losing performance no matter how great the tires are.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Good one! :up:
But no I would never wok for a rubber making company! :laugh: Especially bad quality rubber! ;)

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Oh... and I was so sure. :p

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Originally Posted by aki13

Oh... and I was so sure. :p

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Crystal ball needs servicing! :)

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

To the press , Newey stated something like "not much , maybe an eighth or so" , and later , I have read it was 4.3 .

With a little more info , having just seen then drop the level just a quarter of a degree , for safety sake , from 3.5 to 3.25 , it lets us see it in a clearer view .
The difference over , that the Bulls were running was , in fact , pretty significant . Newey well understated the overage to the press , trying to push the blame onto the tires .

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Whitmarsh was quote giving the following numbers for Spa:

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"We changed the camber coming here because Pirelli reduced the allowance by half a degree. It was 4.5 and it went to 4.0."

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Originally Posted by ioan

Whitmarsh was quote giving the following numbers for Spa:

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It seems it was right to reduce the settings . Was it not ?

Presumably , the maximums are given depending on the track surface , and likely temperatures .

What Pirelli have done going to the FIA makes perfect sense to me. AFAIK the teams have no requirement to give Pirelli the specifics of the camber angles they are running, but by involving the FIA Pirelli is asking that when needed the FIA steps in to find if the tires are being run within the recommendations given.

If tires were having issues and teams were running within the recommended specs, Pirelli would have a problem to fix and potential safety issue caused by them. If tires are having issues when running camber angles outside of recommendations, Pirelli places the safety concern on the teams.

During the play of practice on SpeedTV they were talking about the fact that Pirelli suggested they might file a suit for slander against RB until RB backed down. And I really don't blame them much for doing so. They have provided tires within the suggested requirements, and have provided the FIA and teams with recommendations on settings for the tires. When RB chose to go outside of those parameters they acted as if there was a safety issue caused by the tire supplier, when in fact it was caused by the team.

So now a recommendation has become a law enforced by the FIA? I wonder why this is needed.

Another rule in the middle of the season designed to limit one team's performance and improve the show!

Did Bridgestone ever asked the FIA to enforce camber angle recommendations?

What next? Pirelli will recommend the highest and least wing angles to be run by the teams and then ask the FIA to enforce it?

How long before the tire manufacturer will shape F1 to suit it's incompetence?

I know that the 'knowledgeable' McLaren and Ferrari fans will flame me for this cause they expect these new 'rules' to handicap RBR and thus give a chance to their favorite drivers, but hey everything is 'fair' in today's show biz.

Does anyone know if the Autosport 6 hours will be broadcasted? Maybe we can watch some real motorsport this week.