Honda Indy Toronto

Will Power wins again ... yawn.

it was a competitive race with lots of passing and a bif of bif - what more do you want?

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

I thought I would watch the IRL race today at Toronto - BIG MISTAKE.

The last time I watched the Indy 500 was when Montoya showed just how good he is and how inferior the rest of the drivers were.

Today the Indt 500 is dead and buried. I do watch the races at Texas because THAT is the only track where this one make formula works well.

Today demonstrated that either its a stupid short circuit or the drivers are pretty substandard.

This single-seater series has become the home for non-American drivers unable to find a drive in European racing.

No matter what they do it is not going to work. The original idea was for an oval series using American machinery and with lots of American drivers - thats a good formula.

If it were 10 races on oval tracks that could put on shows as they usually fo in Texas, then people like myself and others from the lower echelons of racing such as NASCAR would watch.

Indy racing is finished because there is essentially no connection to anything American witin the series.

You think that American race fans are stupid? There is a reason why the Indy series is where it is today and it is not going to be improved by silly gimmicks as announced this past week.

I had good will towards this series - I remember the CART days which were just superb.

But when CART collapsed the idea for an oval openwheel series was sound.

Where exactly does Indy fit today? Nowhere, and ridiculous road street circuits where every corner looks the same and the drivers too incompetent to drive without a caution every handful of laps is just a road to nowhere.

Openwheel racing deserves to die in the US and it will not be missed - today was a display of incompetent driving at its worst dominated by the only teams that are going to win anything in that series - Ganassi or Penske - yawn.....zzzzzz!

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you get out of the wrong side of your bed this morning?

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Originally Posted by SUBARUTEAM

you get out of the wrong side of your bed this morning?

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There has been a LOT of silliness on many racing forums today for some reason. I attribute it to hot weather and adult beverages.

Either that, or there was a mass release from psychiatric hospitals.

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Originally Posted by beachbum

There has been a LOT of silliness on many racing forums today for some reason. I attribute it to hot weather and adult beverages.

Either that, or there was a mass release from psychiatric hospitals.

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LOL!!!

i agree. I beleive its very simple - if you don't like it, don't watch it.

Mastered ?

You have got to F'en kidding me

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

It was a crashfest today. Danica had this course mastered this weekend. Im proud of her. Look out Edmonton, here she comes!

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Mastered? If she "mastered" the weekend, why was she not on the top step on the podium?

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

It was a crashfest today. Danica had this course mastered this weekend. Im proud of her. Look out Edmonton, here she comes!

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I kinda laugh that you still think shes a rookie of some sort. shes been in the IRL long enough to know these cars inside and out, yet still got outrun by Rahal who was running with his 3rd team this year. and if there was another lap, Justin would've passed her.

the media loves going gaga over her for her awesome 6th place finish, but seriously, shes a veteran now, 6 years in the series and post a decent finish, albit around 8 drivers ahead of her in the race all crashed.

Graham drove a silent 5th place finish and so did RHR with a 3rd, yet the media could talk about his how amazing this "deadbeat" is with a 6th.

Simona took a 9th, and she did a good job, but I dont believe she passed a single soul either, but with her being in her first season with the car and at the track, I give a bigger thumbs up to her over a 6 year vet who can only manage this when everyone in front crashs out.

not to burst your small bubble, but she'll be back in the norm at Edmonton, basically lost on the track

This was a typical Danicker points-collecting race.

Stay out of the way and wait for all the boneheads (and we have a TON of boneheads in this series) to screw up. Keep moving up the order and get a good finish.

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Originally Posted by Scotty G.

This was a typical Danicker points-collecting race.

Stay out of the way and wait for all the boneheads (and we have a TON of boneheads in this series) to screw up. Keep moving up the order and get a good finish.

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I can actually accept that as a street course tactic. Won't win you the event, but it'll get you decent points so isn't necessarily to be dismissed quite so readily. That said, to use it as an example of track mastery is clearly absurd, especially when 11 people qualified better and 5 people finished higher, but then I think we've all come to expect that now.