I dunno know about that.....but I will let you know about the camel toes after our date next weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I dunno know about that.....but I will let you know about the camel toes after our date next weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
And where were your complaints about the totalitarian excesses of whatever the side you are from during the last 8 years? And from 1980-1992?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
You do know don't you when you refer to the right of center policies of modern US Democrats as "socialism" that you appear to the whole rest of the world as foolish and unbelievable in the extreme?
And all credibility evaporates.
Only to you and a few more of the timid. Maybe I ought to put out a list if me and see what group you'd like to throw me in with.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
I agree. Anyone who thinks that there is a hint of socialism in anything along the lines of the modern Democratic Party or the UK's Labour Party clearly has as limited an understanding of politics as does anyone who would lump Republicans or British Conservatives in with the far right.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Spoken like a true left wing voter. Ben...Obama has nationalized GM for all intensive purposes. THAT is socialism. He wants to take over healthcare. That, whether you think this is good or bad is a socialist tenet. The Democratic party or the UK Labour party are socialist to an extent. I don't think for a second they are the second coming of Stalin or even Karl Marx, but government control of sectors of the economy is a socialist tenet. That said, many Republican or Tory politicians have taken socialist ideas at one point or another on as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Palin? A punching bag? Ya...she is, but I can remember the efforts that were given to digging up every speck of dirt about her the second McCain put her in the VP spot. I don't remember that much diligent journalism when the press was ignoring the rumours going about John Edwards and the illicit affair resulting in a love child. The mainstream media ignored those rumours until AFTER Edwards had dropped out of the race for President. Palin? They went after her daughter like a pack of wolves.
Sarah Palin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and I don't think she is ready to be anything more than the Governor of Alaska, but she still had more experience in actually governing something than Obama has. That fact was conveninently ignore constantly during the election but I know if the Dem's put a VP in with no experience and the Republicans had a candidate for VEEP with lots, any attacks on the Dem VP with little experience would have been muted.
I have said it a 1000 times, in the US media, there is a Democratic friendly bias and it has been documented by more than a few authors, some of them from the media and not political hacks too...
Sarah is gone, and god love her I hope she stays gone. She just hasn't done much but walk into one media S#$tstorm after another. Anyone with that lighting rod instinct for media attention in the wrong way shouldn't be running for President...
I think that's much fairer than my original post, to be honest. What I was really trying to get across my objection to was the portrayal of anything remotely left-wing as coming from the far left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I wont say Obama is a far left guy Ben. I am glad I kind of stated what you thought because I didn't think you were as naive to think there was no socialist goals in the Democrats or UK Labour party. There always has been and many in the Labour party have come out proudly on that score.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
We can argue about right vs left all day long, but at the end of the day, most politicians elected in the democratic western nations are not extermists either way, although the coarseness of political debate sometimes would have you believe others. I cant count the number of times Tory politicians in Canada are called Nazi's or thugs any time they bring up something the leftwing NDP disagree with.
Sarah Palin has been called every rotten name in the book short of Nazi by the far left of the Democratic party. Go to a forum like the Huffington Post and they are probably coming up with some of the most vile crap imaginable....
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Oh yeah, choosing between the Sara and bama was like choosing to be hit on the left side or the right side of the head with a baseball bat.....
wonder what bama will do when this year' "stimulus" runs out for next year?
I see where that dummy Palin went and referred to Prime Minister Putin as President Putin. WHOOPS! Oh wait, that was that well-spoken, glib, intelligent Obama guy, again. Well, I guess we'll give Obama a free pass on this one too.
Good for Sarah - screw Putin anyway - She is coming and coming to a location near you. She will be the demise of many in politics. And see you T.I.R.Es and too quick to raise the white flag - you thought she was giving up.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...-announcement/