Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2012

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Originally Posted by TyPat107

Correct me if am am wrong, but a larger turbo will flow more air and thus make more power than a smaller turbo at the same pressure.

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larger turbo needs more air.Here we have an orifice.

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Originally Posted by 6789

Really nice video from RallyMedia - WRC Rally de Portugal 2012 (HD) - YouTube

Some big cutting at 0:15 by Ford factory car, looks like Petter I think - WRC Rally de Portugal 2012 (HD) - YouTube

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There is no video from Portugal with no moments from Petter and Jari from deep cuts,to out of the road .There is a reason for so much flat tyres.

Hi, just to clarify this (as I am a scrutineer at rallies in New Zealand), at the end of an event, scrutineers hold onto a small number of cars in parc ferme and do more detailed checks to confirm the cars conform with the homologation papers. This doesn't mean they ask for the engine to be disassembled necessarily, instead they choose a number of parts on the car and they are disassembled as necessary and checked. This could be anything from suspension, window glass, engine parts to measuring vehicle track and suspension pickup points. This is done typically to cars that win the event or their class, but also some cars are chosen at random so that there is a fair sample across the field. This is done at the end of every FIA sanctioned rally.

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Originally Posted by uranium

Just curious, all cars goes through so deep check procedure?
And return to what I said earlier. Agree, to check more than 50 cars is impossible. But at least there are no more than 10 cars, who can be called as pretenders for victory. Why not check all of them before the event? At least 4 cars are the most important?
What is algorithm to choose the car to check after the event?

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The fact that Citroen probably gained no performance advantage isn't relevant - the parts did not conform to the homolgated requirements, it's as simple as that, sorry.

WT

there is no point in an appeal... it would only matter if citroen had doubt about the validity of the measurement...from the moment they accepted the fact that these parts were out of limits there is nothing they can do...they are out and rightly so.

The fact that the parts didn't gave any advantage is irrelevant when it comes to the actual decision of the stewards...it only comforts citroen that the fans will not accuse them of cheating on purpose.

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Originally Posted by Wasted Talent

The fact that Citroen probably gained no performance advantage isn't relevant - the parts did not conform to the homolgated requirements, it's as simple as that, sorry.

WT

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we said the same,didn t get it?

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

The fact that the parts didn't gave any advantage is irrelevant when it comes to the actual decision of the stewards...it only comforts citroen that the fans will not accuse them of cheating on purpose.

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That's far from a fact, and even quite far from likely imo. Though we will never know, so it will remain unsolved.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

there is no point in an appeal... it would only matter if citroen had doubt about the validity of the measurement...from the moment they accepted the fact that these parts were out of limits there is nothing they can do...they are out and rightly so.

The fact that the parts didn't gave any advantage is irrelevant when it comes to the actual decision of the stewards...it only comforts citroen that the fans will not accuse them of cheating on purpose.

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Post deleted as I can see Citroën are not going to appeal after all. The results stand as it is.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98587

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Originally Posted by bretddog

That's far from a fact, and even quite far from likely imo. Though we will never know, so it will remain unsolved.

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we will see in a few weeks in Argentina...

I do not think the Citroen team as cheaters...

It looked more like it was an aftereffect of Mr Quensel leaving and new teammanager steping in.

Anyway, am I correct when I say that it was the first time that they didnt scored any manufacturer points from event since Citroen joined WRC in 2003 as a manufacuter? They have scored at least one point in each event since they joined?