Mobile phones & tablets thread

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

What would you guys want that you don't already have?

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Stability, security and lack of lag (I have security but not the other two). A decent camera, mine is blurrier than I'd expect even for a phone. A phone that doesn't require a complete change of accessories every time I get a new one. Quicker wireless internet. Other than that not much really.

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

Both Nokia and RIM seems to be in a race toward the graveyard at this point. And if BB10 is a flop, RIM's best hope probably is to continue the process it seems to have already started: sell itself or fully license its patents to competitors.

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Nokia doesn't really have a USP but RIM's secure messaging system still gives it a loyal customer base doesn't it? Over here they are still popular with companies and the younger end of the phone market for precisely this reason. So much so in fact that during the riots the police specifically targetted shutting down RIM's system to stop rioters coordinating across London.

I don't think it'll be easy for them to gain market share but they may not lose much more either if they carry on with their current systems.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Again you assume.

Taking the ICS update for a start, the release was staggered across different networks and for different phones. Even with the same network and the same phone my friends received their updates over a period of weeks and months, not at the same time.

Meanwhile I assume that normal security patches continue to be released. Is this an unfair assumption for someone as smart as you?

As I mention repeatedly the nature of the update isn't given and if you don't update further updates are blocked including security patches.

So how can I assume that the update I've been given MUST be ICS because its kind of being rolled out across my network over the whole year?

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Nowadays if you do not find something on the internet then it pretty much never happened, this is not an assumption it is the power of what billions of people can achieve when they share what they know in what we call the World Wide Web.

Every piece of released software, be it for Android, iOS, Windows, BB etc is analyzed by people who are interested and they always publish their findings on specialty forums, and this is not an assumption it is a fact.

Now, we can blame Apple, Google, Samsung, Nokia etc for our shortcomings and sky high expectation, but that won't solve the issues that we could solve ourselves by doing the right thing.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Perhaps I'm lazy in looking up the exact nature of what kind of update might be around, but do you think that it is good practice for updates to be pushed onto customers without informing them what it might be? A simple "the latest update for your phone (OS ICS update) is available, would you like to download?" would suffice. Thats all it takes. Its poor service that they can't even do that. Odd because every other phone OS supplier seems to find it easy.

Now since you're so intelligent tell me which other clever companies operate their update systems this way. This isn't about getting things on a silver plate. Its about expecting industry norms of customer 'service'.

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Who did that? I never had any update installed on my Samsung tab without being asked and given the name/number of the upgrade package.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

yes, thanks ioan, I'd already got that far here Sony Xperia S mit Vertrag T-Mobile D1 Vodafone D2 E-Plus o2 BASE Vertragsverlängerung ohne Vertrag :p

I mean is it crap like Apple/Samsung or great like Apple/Samsung or something in between like HTC ? :bandit:

Is it recommended by yuz experts or is it more a bit of a "Nokia" ? :andrea:


btw it's not for me, it's for donkito :s :dozey:

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I've never bought a Sony phone to be honest.
In the past Erricson was making good quality phones, but since they became Sony Erricson I didn't hear good things about them.
Give it a search and see what user say about it, user reviews are much more reliable than the ones done by specialty magazines and paid for by Sony.

You could ask Donkito to do the research himself and see what he thinks about it, he'll have to use it after all.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Who did that? I never had any update installed on my Samsung tab without being asked and given the name/number of the upgrade package.

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After three or four posts repeating the same point you FINALLY get it. Well done.

I'm on a major British mobile phone network running an HTC and as I've said several times the details of the upgrade are not given to me. Shame that it took this long for you to finally understand what I've been saying.

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Originally Posted by ioan

You could ask Donkito to do the research himself and see what he thinks about it, he'll have to use it after all.

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That was the one he'd researched after interpreting our faces when he mentioned iPhones or SIII's ... no need for a teenager to have the Top of the Range model in our old fashioned view :p
I just wanted to seek some advice from the experts. ;)

However, he just came in on his way up to his room and informed me the Xperia V is coming out soon, in time for Christmas :dozey: :p

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

That was the one he'd researched after interpreting our faces when he mentioned iPhones or SIII's ... no need for a teenager to have the Top of the Range model in our old fashioned view :p
I just wanted to seek some advice from the experts. ;)

However, he just came in on his way up to his room and informed me the Xperia V is coming out soon, in time for Christmas :dozey: :p

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I still have a Nokia 1100 in good shape, I actually use it when I visit customers who won't allow me in with a smart phone with camera, it would be a good starting point for a first phone!
I'm just kidding. ;)

PS: If the Sony is what he wants and the price is acceptable for you, then let him have it this way there is no complaining later.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

I just wanted to seek some advice from the experts. ;)

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Can't say I'm an expert but I had the original Xperia X1 and I've followed Sony since then from a distance.

I think you should wait a few months after release then look at the reviews. My X1 was touted as the iPhone 1 killer before it was released. All I can say is it was the first and only phone I counted down the days till I could replace it. Apart from as a handheld hammer it was not fit for any purpose whatsoever (though it was built like a tank luckily).

Since then they seem to get a lot of pre-release hype that isn't born out by the actual product like the Playstation capable phone that could only play a limited number of ancient games. So I'd wait a bit and anyway patience is a virtue (or so I hear).

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

That was the one he'd researched after interpreting our faces when he mentioned iPhones or SIII's ... no need for a teenager to have the Top of the Range model in our old fashioned view :p
I just wanted to seek some advice from the experts. ;)

However, he just came in on his way up to his room and informed me the Xperia V is coming out soon, in time for Christmas :dozey: :p

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Tell him he's getting a Lumia 820 :p

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Originally Posted by Malbec

After three or four posts repeating the same point you FINALLY get it. Well done.

I'm on a major British mobile phone network running an HTC and as I've said several times the details of the upgrade are not given to me. Shame that it took this long for you to finally understand what I've been saying.

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This is the one big issue with Android, the fragmentation in terms of updates.

What updates you get over the lifetime of your phone depend on whether the manufacture wants to allow it and whether your network allows it as well.

This is one big advantage that iOS and Windows Phones have. I think with iOS Apple has complete control over the updates and the same is true with Windows Phones although a carrier can choose to delay or even skip one update but then when the next one comes out they're forced to give the user both updates anyway..... in practice no carriers seem to excessively delay any updates. Security updates go through without delay.

In addition to this, when you do an update, Zune tells you the version number and gives you a rough explanation of what the update entails.