Rally History (part III)

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Originally Posted by Fred Gallagher

Das Gesamtklassement des 39. Rallye
von Genf
1. Nicolas/Todt (F), Alpine, 8418 Punkte;
2 Henry/Grobot (F), Alpine, 8723;
3. Haldi/Chapuis (CH), Porsche, 8746;
4. Vetsch/Olivier (CH) Porsche, 9037;
5. Palayer/Rouff(F), Alpine Renault, 9163;
6. Fiorentino/Gelin(F), Simca CG, 9256;
7. Lepoutre/Dufosse(F), Alpine Renault, 9286;
8. Chasseuil/Baron(F), Alfa R. 1750, 9524;
9. Trautmann/Desvignes(F), Alpine R., 9677;
10. Ragnotti'Thimonier(F) Opel K., 9749;

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Thank you once more Mr Gallagher. One question to those results above. 9th overall was Rene or Claudine Trautmann with Marie-Odile Desvignes? I think it was Claudine as she was used to drive with Marie-Odile and she was connected with Renault. But it is always better to check and ask.
Regards
Janusz

Yes, definitely Claudine. And my name is Fred, not Mr!

Thank you M... Fred ;) and regards Janusz

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Originally Posted by D-Type

That's curious. The information I gave came from a book by Philip Porter. I would have expected a historian of his stature to have included the names of all three of the car's crew and not just two of them. Maybe it's because it's a photo caption which didn't get the same degree of scrutiny and proof reading that the main text of a book does.

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Duncan - sorry for the late reply.

I think the reason that third (or fourth) drivers are often overlooked is that the ACM neither mentioned them in the programme or the official results. On some occasions only the two "main" members of the crew were allowed to be in the car for the final Etape de Classement.

Fred

Thanks for the clarification - A rather different world from today's in many ways.

Dear All,

Back again after a long long time.
Could someone fill in the missing names?

1975 - 20. Hanki Rally 26-28 February
7 up to 10?

1976 - 21. Hanki Rally 5-7 March
1 Tapio Rainio – Erkki Nyman Saab 96 V4
2 Ulf Grönholm/??? Opel Ascona
3 Simo Lampinen/??? Saab 96 V4
4 Timo Makela/??? Chrysler Imp
5 Markku Saaristo /??? Skoda 120 S
6 Timo Salonen/??? Datsun Violet
7 Heikki Vilkman/??? Saab 96 V4
8 Kyösti Hämaläinen/??? Chrysler Avenger
9 Pertti Karha/??? Chrysler Avenger
10 Kauko Makela/??? Peugeot 304

1977 - 22. Hanki Rally 18-20 February
8 Erkki Pitkänen/??? Chrysler Avenger
9 ???/???
10 ???/???

1981 - 26. Hanki Rally 27 February-1 March
4 Stig Blomqvist/??? Gröndahl Saab 99 Turbo

1984 - 29. Hanki Rally 24-26 February
9 Sebastian Lindholm/???Ohmann Opel Ascona

1966 - 1. Arctic Rally
1 Kari O. Sohlberg/Y. Rouhunkoski Volkswagen 1600
2 Veijo Pääkkönen/??? Raitanen Ford Cortina GT

1973 - 8. Arctic Rally 2-4 February
6 Arto Huhtasalo - Jukka Pietilä Volvo 142
7 ??? Huhtasalo/??? Kyllönen Volvo 142
10 ???Poranen/??? Pettersson Ford Escort GT

1974 - 9. Arctic Rally 31 January-2 February
9 ??? Malmgren-??? Jonsson Saab 96 V4
10 ??? Petterson/??? Bergsten Saab 96 V4

1975 - 10. Tunturi Arctic Rally 30 January-2 February
6 Heikki Vilkman/??? Kataja Saab 96 V4
9 ???/???
10 ???/???

1980 - 15. Arctic Rally 2-3 February
4 Mikael Sundström/??? Hjelm Ford Escort RS
6 ??? Lappalainen/??? Lappalainen Ford Escort RS
7 Erkki Pahkinen/??? Kujanpaa Ford Escort RS
8 Raimo Hämeenniemi/??? Pikkiarainen Ford Escort RS
10 ??? Heikkila/??? Heikkila Talbot Sunbeam TI

Regards,
Infiniti

1975 - 20. Hanki Rally 26-28 February
7 up to 10?
07 Ulf Grönholm FIN Raimo Anttonen FIN Volvo 142
08 Timo Salonen FIN Seppo Harjanne FIN Volvo 142
09 Heikki Enomaa FIN Matti Honkavaara FIN BMW 2002
10 Kaj Fyhrqvist FIN Leif Malmström FIN Opel Ascona

1976 - 21. Hanki Rally 5-7 March
1 Tapio Rainio – Erkki Nyman Saab 96 V4
2 Ulf Grönholm/Raimo Anttonen Opel Ascona
3 Simo Lampinen/Juhani Markkanen Saab 96 V4
4 Timo Mäkelä/Juhani Korhonen Chrysler Imp
5 Markku Saaristo /Timo Alanen Skoda 120 S
6 Timo Salonen/Jaakko Markkula Datsun Violet
7 Heikki Vilkman/M. Kataja Saab 96 V4
8 Kyösti Hämaläinen/Urppo Vihervaara Chrysler Avenger
9 Pertti Karha/Seppo Siitonen Chrysler Avenger
10 Kauko Mäkelä/Jukka Miettinen Peugeot 304

1977 - 22. Hanki Rally 18-20 February
8 Erkki Pitkänen/??? Chrysler Avenger
9 ???/???
10 ???/???
for 1977 I have:
08 Jan-Erik Lundgren S Martti Seitsola FIN Saab 96 V4
09 Timo Mäkelä FIN Juhani Korhonen FIN Chrysler Avenger
10 Pertti Kärhä FIN Jorma Helenius FIN Ford Escort RS2000


1981 - 26. Hanki Rally 27 February-1 March
4 Stig Blomqvist/Robbie Gröndahl Saab 99 Turbo

1984 - 29. Hanki Rally 24-26 February
9 Sebastian Lindholm/???Ohmann Opel Ascona

1966 - 1. Arctic Rally
1 Kari O. Sohlberg/Y. Rouhunkoski Volkswagen 1600
2 Veijo Pääkkönen/??? Raitanen Ford Cortina GT

1973 - 8. Arctic Rally 2-4 February
6 Arto Huhtasalo - Jukka Pietilä Volvo 142
7 ??? Huhtasalo/Tapio Kyllönen Volvo 142
10 Heikki Poranen/Henry Pettersson Ford Escort GT

1974 - 9. Arctic Rally 31 January-2 February
9 Kurt Malmgren-Göran Jonsson Saab 96 V4
10 Dag Petterson/Roland Bergsten Saab 96 V4

1975 - 10. Tunturi Arctic Rally 30 January-2 February
6 Heikki Vilkman/Matti Kataja Saab 96 V4
09 Esko Nuutila / Matti Olkku FIN Vauxhall Magnum
10 Kauko Mäkelä / Pentti Kuukkala FIN Peugeot 304 S


1980 - 15. Arctic Rally 2-3 February
4 Mikael Sundström/Markku Hjelm Ford Escort RS
6 Timo Lappalainen/Matti Lappalainen Ford Escort RS
7 Erkki Pahkinen/Kalevi Kujanpää Ford Escort RS
8 Raimo Hämeenniemi/Jaakko Pikkarainen Ford Escort RS
10 Reijo Heikkilä/Varpu Heikkilä Talbot Sunbeam TI

Regards
Janusz

Dear janusz

Many thanks.

Regards,
Infiniti

Since starting this thread...i have "discovered" more about the topic by inserting letters in provincial newspapers..
The 1951 Waring/Wadham (as in Wadham Stringer ) pairing..who shared the same initials and Birthday...were in deed partnered by Dougie Sharp...all local to Portsmouth.
I met Dougie on Hayling Island and gained access to Wally Warings 72 page "photo Album " on the 1951 event via his son Stuart... a fine 9th place out of 340 starters...

The 1950 team Dennis Warwick and Brother Frederick from St Albans were assisted by young Alban Warwick...only 16 at the time ..but allowed to drive once in France....(local law )

The 1953 Manchester -Hyde entry of Harry Harrop and Tommy Saxton were aided by Frank Handsworth..all local Hyde lads ..this info via Harrys son..alas the 1953 team are no more...

Back to 1951...well Known pre war racer Reggie Tongue and Spitfire pilot got two of his WW2 RAF chums Michael Royce and P.E. Warr ( injured over/at Arnhem badly ) to join him.. finishing 31st....still trying to find out more about this team...may require a letter in a RAF magazine..

so yes...the 3rd and sometimes 4th members in the big saloon cars of the
early 50,s are virtually forgotten...
I plan to retrace some ,51 route in the Cental Massif and Maritime Alps in June in my
Mk V.. In the meantime several more teams to track down...

Ed Abbott

Please keep us posted on how you get on and what you find out