[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

News in Autosport magazine in UK today about a growing and edging to bitter dispute betwwen the FIA and the WRC manufacturers over the 1.6T engine. Citroen have said they will not develop a new 1.6T engine for 2011 wrc unless there is commitment from others, (and the story names VW & FIAT) to commit to joining the wrc and also build the new engined cars by 2011. If there is no firm commitment from these manufacturers Citroen and Ford have agreed to delay the new engines for another year, and if I read it correctly WILL stay in wrc but with S2000 n/a engined cars. Morrie Chandler lost patience with ' these two teams who dont know what they want - they change their minds on a daily basis or if it rains' he said. Ford on the other hand beleive that 1.6T is the best for the future but have agreed with Citroen. It seems to me that the mess is getting bigger. If have sympathy with Citroen and Ford, as potentially they could invest a significant financial resource to designing and building a new type engine, whilst the other manufacturers could potentailly stay in IRC and use what they have, without spening the money. Citroen & Ford could be on the verge of wasting big money if no other manufacturer joins. I just wonder if this ever gets sorted..........

In this weeks motorsport news it reports that prodrive will be back with a manufacture for the 2011 season.Dave Richards say's they are in talks with 3 manufactures.But he has all ready set a team of 6 to design ,under the new regulations.They have been doing it for the last 6 months and are 50% in to the design.Richard's claims computer aided desighn technology would make it easy for prodrives concept to be adapted to any make of car.

Sounds interesting especially with 3 manufactures showing interest,lets hope it comes to fruitrition.

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Originally Posted by fastboy

In this weeks motorsport news it reports that prodrive will be back with a manufacture for the 2011 season.Dave Richards say's they are in talks with 3 manufactures.But he has all ready set a team of 6 to design ,under the new regulations.They have been doing it for the last 6 months and are 50% in to the design.Richard's claims computer aided desighn technology would make it easy for prodrives concept to be adapted to any make of car.

Sounds interesting especially with 3 manufactures showing interest,lets hope it comes to fruitrition.

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yawn.

prodrive have lost a lot of street cred, not being able to get the s14 sorted, and the failed Prodrive F1 project.

But they have Aston Martin (whole brand, with some other investors)..

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Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear

yawn.

prodrive have lost a lot of street cred, not being able to get the s14 sorted, and the failed Prodrive F1 project.

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Thnx God that the N2009 is better in PWC than a Evo X!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by MJW

News in Autosport magazine in UK today about a growing and edging to bitter dispute betwwen the FIA and the WRC manufacturers over the 1.6T engine. Citroen have said they will not develop a new 1.6T engine for 2011 wrc unless there is commitment from others, (and the story names VW & FIAT) to commit to joining the wrc and also build the new engined cars by 2011. If there is no firm commitment from these manufacturers Citroen and Ford have agreed to delay the new engines for another year, and if I read it correctly WILL stay in wrc but with S2000 n/a engined cars. Morrie Chandler lost patience with ' these two teams who dont know what they want - they change their minds on a daily basis or if it rains' he said. Ford on the other hand beleive that 1.6T is the best for the future but have agreed with Citroen. It seems to me that the mess is getting bigger. If have sympathy with Citroen and Ford, as potentially they could invest a significant financial resource to designing and building a new type engine, whilst the other manufacturers could potentailly stay in IRC and use what they have, without spening the money. Citroen & Ford could be on the verge of wasting big money if no other manufacturer joins. I just wonder if this ever gets sorted..........

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Well as I said before, I don't understand why develop a new engine, when they have many manufacturers with the n/a 2l engine allready. So they shot themselves in the leg again... So typical.

It's policy of manufacturers that 2 litre engine has more co2 to the atmosphere so they're becomin' history.. They want to promote new 1.6 turbo engines with lower co2.. But chasses must be identical like S2000 (only other engine)..

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Originally Posted by Barreis

It's policy of manufacturers that 2 litre engine has more co2 to the atmosphere so they're becomin' history.. They want to promote new 1.6 turbo engines with lower co2.. But chasses must be identical like S2000 (only other engine)..

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I am in agreement with using 1.6T not 2 litre engines, its definately the right way to go. But this is going to take time, I would prefer it if (for competition's sake) the current WRC cars stopped on 31/12/09 and for 2010 and 2011 we had S2000 with the new 1.6T engines coming in from Jan 2012.
The way things could develop now is that the current 2 teams could soon be pushing for the status quo with wrc cars to continue. That will just kill it off and IRC becomes the premier series.

I agree.. There's more than 100 S2000 cars outside in private hands and "drivers without money" can try now with big boys!!! :)

Sebastien Loeb is seriously aplying for the F1 seat inthe Toro Rosso Team, as a replacement for Sebastien Bourdais, who is strongly rumoured to be out of the team after the German GP this weekend. However Citroen Racing teamboss Olivier Quesnel is not amused of letting him go during this season, which is very understandable :) . But Loeb is getting bored of WRC and is looking for new/real excitement