Well well
Yaris was lot slower with that new rear-spoiler...
Only 1-2-3-10 not 1-2-3-4
;)
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Well well
Yaris was lot slower with that new rear-spoiler...
Only 1-2-3-10 not 1-2-3-4
;)
New spoiler for TurkeyQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
No, it was used already.
Actually if you compare with Corsica it was. The 1-2-3 comment is a little bit like saying Hyundai was fastest car in Corsica cause Neuville won.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Neuville had same speed as Tänak and faster than both other Toyotas, Sordo was also faster than both other Toyotas unlike Corsica and Ogier was about same speed as Latvala/Meeke before puncture. Ford lacked a top tarmac driver but stagetimes Suninen did were also very good compared with Toyotas.
The question still remains as to what changes need to be done for Turkey. From the Germany talk from Toyota it seems that they were actually forced to follow the "correct" overhang even here.
Btw. the comments from Toyota vs Citroen should come as no surprise to anyone. Off course Toyota will claim how it's all nonsense and pointless change, while Citroen will claim it was a massive advantage. Truth is likely somewhere between.
exactly, i would say that the Hyunday was maybe the best overall car at Rally Germany. At least there wasnt nothing to choose between them and Toyota
In testing. But only introduced for all in TurkeyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
"For Germany, we have the same assembly on the car, the aerodynamic profile is the same that it has always been, but in order to meet tolerance in clarifications there has been positional adjustments in order to meet the tolerance."Quote:
Originally Posted by wrc2017
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-clarification
Well...it was Hyundai`s home-event afterall. Maybe not the same like Finland-Yaris, but still...
Didn't know that.. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Hard to agree Est. Tanak lead from SS1 to the finish; Neuville was always close and won the PS but all Yaris drivers managed to win stages (11 against 8 i20 wins) while Mikkelsen struggled with his car set-up all event long. The Yaris was also more reliable, with only those PS brake issues for Tanak against Sordo’s gearbox failure at the end of leg 2 (plus Neuville fuse issue after a stall). All considered, the Yaris was, as usual, the best car.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
well, maybe yes but i was talking more about speedwise, still i say there wasnt much between them (Tänak 8 stage wins, Neuville 7 stage wins) and Hyundai has upped massively their game on tarmac.
good pic of new rims versus old rims
https://twitter.com/TOYOTA_GR/status...786018306?s=20
Difficult to isolate the driver and car performance. Judging by Tänak's comments, he was playing it safe and not pushing max, whereas I would assume Neuville was driving 110%, leading into relatively equal times. But then again, Sordo had also a great pace.
Suninen was basically doing same times as Meeke and Latvala when they were fighting Ogier. Sure he was first on the road, but the roads were quite dusty for first cars.
Afaik Msport had close to no development on Fiesta since Corsica.
Fat head.. Sunninen said himself he has nothing to lose, only to set fast times. Meeke and Latvala where driving for 2nd and 3rd overall, a constructors championship, and neither had any room for mistake, and driving for their place in the team next year. Meeke didn't even do the event last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
But then again, Suninen's first ever tarmac rally in a WRC car was exactly a year ago, and previously he has always been a bit down on pace.
When you have a free mind, and no noose around your kneck, no target for the rally, previous karting pedigree.. in a Ford that is obviously quick on tarmac, as Evans was leading Corsica, and a clean road.. your not going to be slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
of all drivers Takamoto Katsuta has most "Karting Pedigree".
Usually 1-2-3's are "bad" and mean that there is not that wide competition, but I think the most beautiful thing about Toyota's straight flush in Germany was that it wasn't because of that (lack of competition).
i understand from this article that they will have new wing for Turkey indeed, also suspension updates https://translate.google.ee/translat...masti-hyvin%2F
also its written that others have to make chnges but not as much as Toyota. Finnish guys maybe better translation ?
You understood correctly. Also Tommi said the rim update worked and they haven’t managed to break them in tests.
I talked with TGR "insiders"
They said that:
Both Citroen and Hyundai had bit different "wings" in Germany than in Finland.
TOYOTA SOLVES TÄNAK BRAKE ISSUE
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/sept...5--12-12-.html
All-new road-going Yaris launched this morning. Looks neat.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...round-redesign
New WRC car to follow? New road version on sale mid-2020, perhaps the WRC team uses their current car for one more season before new car in 2021?
Will there be a 3 door version too?
didnt find it in that article.
Much less hideous than the current Yaris.
5-door online I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
All other "French" cars are only available in 5-doors. Same with all VAG brands (Audi, Seat, Skoda and VW)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I thing Fiesta is only high selling model which is also available in 3-doors.
My guess is only 5-doors.
Interesting part is that new Yaris is shorter than previous, so Rally model will look like it has even bigger spoilers/wings ;)
edit.Remember that Hyundai had to use 5-door body for R5 because they couldn´t sell enough 3-door coupe versions...
What if next gen WRC cars will not be fiesta, i20, c3 and yaris?
Toyota and Hyundai were going to build new Yaris/i20 models into 2017-2022 spec. also.
Well every manufacturer can choose which model they want, small cars are getting bigger and bigger...Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Current Fiesta is bigger than 1st Focus, Polo is bigger than Golf used to be.
Remember that for the next gen cars, it's allowed to scale down the bodyshell. If the manufacturer wants to market a bigger model, they can still make a nimble small rally car that just has the "face" of the bigger model.
The R5 test car they are testing is in what chassis?
5-door.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
some renders with the new model https://www.instagram.com/p/B3wj0w6pBUO/
Do you think that if Toyota not a joint venture but a full Toyota team... Tommi could continue as team manager?
Tommi has multi year deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
So full factory is not happening 2020
Ok. But answer my question. Do you think?
Full Factory, NO, NO Tommi as manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
https://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/a/c9f...f-8a1f57f0eeb2
Mäkinen sounding a bit more upbeat than he did in Catalunya. Says he understands Tänak's decision and thinks that the issues in Sardegna and Turkey were the last nail in the coffin. According to Mäkinen, Tänak's contract extension was "finalized, just waiting to be signed", but obviously that never happened. Tommi says the negotiations for next year's line-up are on-going but says they will have "a strong team" and that they will be able to fight for both titles also in 2020.
Not getting much PR for the championship win Toyota are they?
It's been a week and no posts from either Ott or Toyota...