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Originally Posted by EstWRC
What’s also worrying for me this week is that he can’t find the right setup second day in a row with the car he helped to develop
I’m starting to think that once again the car has been developed around Neuville.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
dont want to believe that, as far as i know no team build car around one driverQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
but what was interesting yesterday in the morning that Neuville said the car is great and Ott said its terrible, lol
Well we did learn at the end of the day that Ott had a transmission problem that he’d carried through the day so I’d take everything he says with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Have to ask:
Why do you want Ott to MSport?
Yaris seems to be faster than Puma
(even Takamoto is faster than all Ford/Hyundai)
TGR will not run out of development money next year but is Ford giving enough money to MSport next year ?
I know it's not good if all fast drivers are in fast cars.
I also understand that it's good for WRC if every team has proven winner driving but for Ott it would be better if Evans goes to MSport and Ott back to TGR.
"Just my opinion"
Cause Toyota has Kalle and they dont want him, simple as that IMO
i agree with you that Toyota has the best overall car so far this season
Was it Ott who tested today the golden plated roof i20 in Sardegna?
Neuville
Yeah, clearly, Latvala has no interest on Tanak at the moment ... and even for Neuville, it’s not that simple, personally I wouldn’t take him if I was Toyota boss and if Kalle is champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
So Neuville and Tanak have only 2 choices really: staying in Hyundai for the money and hope an improvement or trying M-Sport with a pay cut but no guarantee for the car as we know M-Sport is not able to be competitive after 2 years (looking at the situation, I’m quite sure that Hyundai would let at least Tanak leave for M-Sport if he accepts to drop his salary; I don’t think so for Neuville)
In the end, staying with Hyundai is probably the best solution, at least for now.
Well, what a difference one rally makes, one minute rock bottom, the next, on the top step of the podium, hopefully they can build on that momentum.
Ypres was his 12th different rally win, passed Neuville, McRae, Hirvonen and Kankkunen with this and tied with Latvala and Grönholm. Next one is Sainz with 13 different rally wins and then Ogier with 20 and Loeb 23.
Can he make it a hat trick like he did back in Finland-Germany-Turkey 2018?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
who knows, he was second last year in Greece, so only one position needs to be improved ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Greece will be interesting it's not a Tanak rally imo but he's on some form at the moment and Kalle has the road position disadvantage and the need to just bank some points so who knows.
He did win in Turkey back in 2018, and you can’t say that’s not a car breaker, question is, will the car hold together?Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Last year in Acropolis Ogier barely lost anything during Friday while cleaning the road. Evans second on the road and Neuville third on the road both had issues on SS2 and SS3 so it's difficult to tell from their side but no big losses on the stages they completed normally. It seems those stages are so sandy that they don't clean that much with just a few cars. Although, last year we only had like six competitive entries, it's interesting to see if the condition starts to change for Loeb or Sordo...
Don't forget that Tänak starts 2nd so not much of cleaning and Ott will suffer as well.
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Tänak delivers, but we should be realists like Tänak himself is.
Win in Finland - this was out of this world effort put into this win. Road position advantage over Rovanperä was helpful as well.
Win in Belgium - again proper effort, but at the same time, he took what was given - Rovanperä, Breen, Neuville out, Evans with penalty.
He said in one interview (I think for some Estonian media) - "we can see from PowerStages (from Finland and Belgium), that we lack from raw speed compared to Toyotas, but we have managed to win".
Yeah but my point was that there might be not that much cleaning anyway, the first six cars could have equally slippery conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
agree almost 100%....just one thing, Breen´s out has nothing to do with Tanak´s win....Breen in his actual form is maybe a competitor to Katsuta or Solberg, but not for Tanak, Kalle, Evans or NeuvilleQuote:
Originally Posted by meh
Ogier lacked raw speed for 2 years at MSport and still won both championships.
So realistic yes, but Tanak talks like it's the end of the world everytime he is not winning every stage and leading by 40s after first day like he used to during that period at Toyota.
Just to make it clear, Tänak is not talking about raw speed at the stage end, he is talking about car not doing what he wants. Tänak has said himself that he would like to do those times more comfortably i.e. every time he steers he gets the expected result. Rally Finland was the purest example of that - Tänak going full send and matching the Toyota drivers. Neuville not trusting the car and admitting that "I know they will do those corners at full speed but I have no trust". So the car has (raw) speed but it it gives too much surprises.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
If you are capable of doing that(leading by 40s after 1st day) and car doesn't behave like it should, then ofc it makes driver angry. Cars can be changed better/faster, drivers on the other hand rather difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
One stage end comment explains the current i20 pretty well.. ,,I thought smth is broken at the rear, but then realised thar's just the car..''
Hopefully the rear end update makes it better.
you can see it here:Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
https://www.facebook.com/RallyTroll/...2090453161139/
Don’t know if someone noticed it but Moncet’s answer about Tanak’s contract situation sounds quite clear IMO: he probably has some sort of option like Ogier in 2019 to break his contract in exchange for a certain amount of money.
Maybe it is what is playing M-Sport but it would need a serious help (Red Bull?) to do it and to convince the car can still be developed.
And I’m still not convinced it would be a good plan for Tanak to go to M-Sport.
Don’t think Toyota is in the game: would be quite a non-sense for the team to add internal competition to Rovanpera with the risk of messing up everything whereas the situation is good right now.
Tell me if I'm seeing things but Ott made a post on his social media that all Hyundai special edition merch is -30% (other merch will stay the same). Are they clearing their stock for a new manufacturer?
Worse than that, the fact they posted on a ‘special’ announcement that they’re keeping things as they are doesn’t give me much confidence for their immediate future in the wrc but that’s for the Hyundai thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
I think that's more a question of wanting to put as much space as possible between themselves and Eric Boullier :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Yes, so can we make some presumptions?Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
I think it's wise for Tänak/Järveoja fans to start purchasing TGR merchandise ;)
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Already after Finland, when he also had a discount sale but for all the stuff, a Belgian site speculated based on that fact that Tänak could be leavingQuote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
He has had A discount sale after every win this season but yeah interesting that this time only for Hyundai stuff
We can really wondering what is going on with the main Hyundai WRC team and what the meaning is of the RedGrey Team (= Ott Tänak and Markko Märtin) is in the whole story. Could it possible that both Tänak and Märtin are also aiming at taking control of the main Hyundai WRC team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Interesting tought, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergiow
Markko Märtin as teamboss, how would that hit on the driver lineup?
Ott as nr1, but the rest?
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Indeed that's a new idea (to me at least).
How much "managing" has Martin done at any point? (I have no idea, just asking). Might be a bit strange that a current (or former in that case) manager of the main driver will be team boss.
On the other hand at Toyota Latvala who was always managed by Jouhki is now the boss of Rovanpera also managed by Jouhki.
I remember reading somewhere that Hyundai wasn't happy with RedGrey, especially after problem with Sunninen's car in Finland, and the "works" Rally2 car would be run in-house. Sorry, but I can't find/remember where I read this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergiow
Well. If they terminate that Redgrey deal, then i might believe that Tänak to M Sport stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Co-driven
So after all the clarifying and rumors we now have two complete opposites with Tanak leaving and Redgrey ending on one side and Redgrey+Martin taking over whole Hyundai.
Mäkinen was also managered by JouhkiQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
One thing I can not imagine - Märtin as a team boss == public face, giving interviews etc. Märtin is like shadow for media, he is somewhere, doing something, but mostly avoiding cameras.
Interesting idea anyway :)
Märtin as a team boss is a no go.
I don't think this idea will suit koreans as well the french speaking at HSMG.
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