Hi, it´s very difficult to get any news in English. I´m sorry to say that... Normally every club who organizes a rally has its own website, but these are only in German.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
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Hi, it´s very difficult to get any news in English. I´m sorry to say that... Normally every club who organizes a rally has its own website, but these are only in German.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
Unfortunately I don´t know such a site.Quote:
Originally Posted by electroliquid
Entry-list :
http://www.lausitz-rallye.de/de/teilnehmer-competitors
13x R5
It looks like an easy win for Grondal. At least on paper there is no competitor for him (Vorobjovs only with Evo X, others not so good drivers).
Kahle is also fast, especially on "home event"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2017/?s=158891 indeed Kahle doing great, also prince von T&T in impressive 3rd place. Will he do ERC next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Official results are here - http://znts.de/zeitnahme/live_ergebn...?rallye_id=357
Albert is doing really well and he has made interesting progress this year.
Do You know what happened to Mareš on SS4? He was fastest on all stages so far but lost a lot of time on SS4.
Broken driveshaft. info from his twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Like electroliquid wrote, it was broken driveshaft. And that time on SS4 is superally time...
Carsten Mohe / Alexander Hirsch with the Renault Maxi Megane in ADAC Rally Masters (DE).
Could be interesting because Loeb showed the Peugeot Maxi 306 was still fast compare the R5's.
Okay Mohe isn't Loeb but still it's one of the fastest German drivers. At least the choice for this car is a win for the championship!
The Var mountain stages suited the 306 Maxi better. On let's say Touquet stages, which are more similar to German stages, he would not be competing for the victory. The smooth flowing mountain roads is where the maxi cars excel.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacko
Nice idea but also there is unfortunately no class in rally masters supplementary regulations fro such a car :(
Saarland Pfalz Rallye, 1st run of German championship:
Live timing: http://www.rallyehub.de/livetiming.php?id=0
Griebel already lost all chances because engine problems of his 208 T16, maybe restart tomorrow. Tempestini in front of Griebel in the lead.
Dinkel 2nd with spin and puncture ... ;-)
Is there snow on the stages? Very big differences and some "strange" results
Yes, and ice too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Video from SS2:
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/drm/ar...mit-fehlstart/ (scroll down)
Poor Marijan! He didn't even start the rally when the engine of his Peugeot broke down...
More videos from this unexpected winter rally :)
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/zimowy-poczatek-drm,83077
No restart for Griebel, they couldnt repair engine / CPU in time.
Volver finally getting out of Estonia and can show his talent and doing great so far. Leading the Opel Adam cup!
208 T16 .... he had to take what he gets, but last year he had a better car.Quote:
Originally Posted by CWJ
Is it true that this is the last year for the Adam Cup?
studded tyres?
... are not allowed in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
https://youtu.be/YFzHCmWOoho
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G935F met Tapatalk
Kalle Rovanperä leading the Sachsen-Rallye after the first day!
And it's Kalle Rovanperä who takes the cake by over a minute and Winning 10 out of 12 stages!
Congratulations to Kalle!Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
Sad thing... Even in such rally, where the level of competition is far from impressive, Marijan Griebel can only achieve 4th place overall...
Final results of AvD SACHSEN RALLYE 2018:
1. Kalle Rovanperä/Jonne Halttunen (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 1:04.54,1
2. Dominik Dinkel/Christina Kohl (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +1.07,6
3. Sepp Wiegand/Anne Katharina Stein (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +1.19,8
4. Marijan Griebel/Alexander Rath (D) Peugeot 208 T16 +1.38,4
5. Christian Riedemann/Michael Wenzel (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +1.55,5
6. Peter Corazza/Jörn Limbach (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +3.35,5
7. Carsten Mohe/Alexander Hirsch (D) Renault Mégane Maxi +3.36,3
8. Roman Schwedt/Christoph Gerlich (D) Peugeot 207 S2000 +4.50,5
9. Ruben Zeltner/Thomas Zeltner (D) Porsche 996 GT3 +4.56,2
10. Hermann Gassner Jr/Ursula Mayrhofer (D/A) Toyota GT86 CS-R3 +5.52,1
An interview with Kalle Rovanpera:
https://www.facebook.com/ADACRallye/...9963564781079/
Well, many time penalties were given, so the results are a little bit falsified.
If you remove them it would look like that:
1. Kalle Rovanperä/Jonne Halttunen (FIN) Skoda Fabia R5 1:04.54,1
2. Dominik Dinkel/Christina Kohl (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +37,6
3. Christian Riedemann/Michael Wenzel (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +1.05,53
4. Marijan Griebel/Alexander Rath (D) Peugeot 208 T16 +1.08,4
5. Sepp Wiegand/Anne Katharina Stein (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +1.19,8
Still fourth, but not that far behind Kalle anymore. Moreover, I think that Griebel isn´t that much better than Riedemann or Wiegand. All of them are pretty mediocre...
damn, Volver binned it on penultimate stage, was going way too fast, not the best decision from him IMO
Really? Seeing Griebel's results in ERC last year I thought he was faster than the other German drivers. But who knows, maybe you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
http://img.speedweek.com/i/3/33cbc71...pg?preset=i750
Both Wiegand and Griebel are rather good drivers. Their issue is same - they had a chance to show themselves on the international scene but they didn't manage to stay there and afterwards they struggle to get a ride here and there, most of the time without proper testing etc. Talent alone doesn't guarantee anything and except few countries it's not enough even for winning on a national level.
Let's not forget that Wiegand nearly managed to take the ERC title from Lappi and that Griebel managed to win ERC U28. Those aren't easy achievements but they are pretty impossible to achieve without properly supported and funded campaign.
Were those penalties for hitting SSS barriers?Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
If I remember correctly Riedemann had 20secs from missing the TC by 2mins but others were from chicanesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
How is that a falsification?
Come on Mirek. This SSS’s penalties are truly a falsification of the rally spirit. SSS’s are only a show for the public; their sport value is zero and they shouldn’t be deciding a rally result. What’s the point of going flat out on real stages and then being subject to a penalty for throwing down (sometimes by a simple touch) a fragile barrier? Will the public and the organizers be happy if drivers start to do the SSS’s in slow mode to avoid problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's time to get a proper solution for this. Nowadays it's rare to have a rally (at any level) without SSS's polemic penalties. It's really ruining the sport.
There could not be any SSS penalties because there was not even any SSS in the rally (except one street stage I believe but the penalties were not from that one).
Neither Dinkel nor Griebel got the penalty on SSS. Both got them on normal proper stage (onboard of that stage from 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E7BSI9KPxk ).
I don't know how it is in Germany but we have very clear rules regarding chicanes and everybody knows them. The chicanes have standard shape and also are not made of paper. To get 30 seconds penalty here in CZ You need to brake straight through (here). For moving one component of the chicane from it's base (painted on the road) You get 5 seconds. Last but not least the chicanes are not there for fun but to slow down the cars in places where there is high risk of dangerous accident or of a damage caused to the third party (typically entrances to the villages and passes through them).
Well, your definitively right. Maybe Wiegand would be competing in WRC today if he would have got the support he deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Not hitting chicanes and being late at TC is surely part of the game - and it should stay like that. BUT: If we´re talking about pure speed we should remove the penalties to see how fast somebody really was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Riedemans car didnt start bevore the start of the rally out of service area for at least 2mins
All leading drivers got their penalties from chicanes in proper countryside stages, not SSS. Theay were needed to take out some speed before a village and near a lake i.e.