smells like disaster..would love to see the blue again comming years..i follow them since day one..the alen-age
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smells like disaster..would love to see the blue again comming years..i follow them since day one..the alen-age
Honda out of F1 (Japanese brand)
Suzuki out of WRC (Japan)
Subaru out of WRC as it seems (Japan)
The American and now the Japanese brands have gotten quite a hard punch from the crisis it seems.
Wonder IF all this happens:
1) Will Petter, Chris and the Suzuki boys all get privateer Fords?!
2) I'll have to change my damn name!
If we assume that it's true, then couldn't one subaru team continue as an M2 team like Bozian did with the Peugeot 307 in 2006? I mean if Mads Østberg has enough funding for one seat, then it should be possible for one of the two top drivers (P.Solberg/Atkinson) to create the money for the other.
But it's definately a hard blow for the WRC especially because neither Stobart, Munchi's, PH-Sport or VM Motorsport has secured enough sponsorships for their second seats.
no, but thats because you dont know anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRodrigues
Crisis yes but not the economical one...when was the last time any of these brands have won anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Van Merksteijn has enough funding for both cars for father and son for 8 rallies (and qualify for MT2). Maye now some (newly) privateers could hire the car(s) for the other rallies that they skip.
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Originally Posted by DonJippo
What's worrying is that Subaru were probably the last one to win!!
(When did Honda last win?)
Ford and Citroen already commited to 2009 pre WRGB if I remember correctly..
Hungarian GP 2006Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Why would Ford quit when they have Abu Dhabi backing them up? If prince Abu Dhabi wants to drive a WRC car, then he backs them up a little bit more and drive.
At RS, :laugh: Wilson's five year plan... who knew :D
Subaru/Prodrive has Kuwaition money backing them up, so they should have enough oil money to make it.
Most people only needed one season to conclude that he's rubbish. Apparantly Stobart and VK are gonna spend money for 5 years to come to the same conslussion. Waste of time and waste of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
It seems a little strange that they are thinking of closing it down when the Kuwaits have bought up shares at Prodrive.. We'll have to wait and see!
Look at it from the bright side guys, now Citroen has a good chance to sign another profile driver if they want.
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Originally Posted by Iskald
;( ;(
According to Autoblog, they're beginning to think about selling their share of Aston Martin as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennizw
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/15/a...k-up-for-sale/
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Originally Posted by Autoblog.com
Aston Martin sales have been particularly badly affected by the global financial crisis.
This from a news feed.
Sales of new cars in the UK have fallen by 37 per cent in November, which are the worst sales figures in decades. This proves that customers are strapped for cash, and that the financial troubles are getting much worse than we first thought.
Only 100,333 of new vehicles were registered in the month of November, which is 36.8 per cent lower than the same period last year. Aston Martin, Rolls-Royce and Jaguar Land Rover are already feeling the effects of the fall in car sales, and have introduced Christmas shutdowns.
Aston Martin has already announced that they are to axe 600 jobs; Jaguar Land Rover will be laying off 850 IT and engineering staff. Roll-Royce is also axing 40 temporary workers, and have announced that they are extending their Christmas shutdown.
Pirelli will likely bring next year 2 different types of tyres to events where they might be needed.
source mtv3
1 for each manufacturer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Loool
Well, what else than humor remains...
1 for normal conditions, the other is just in case, like a snow tyre for GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
I could see WRC amalgamating with IRC in 2010, with Eurosport the promotor.
Ooh, ouch!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
My guess is that they are pissed with the new rules.
Financially, they are sound.
Only manufacturer to maintain sales in 08 in the US, so money not the issue.
Loeb is a the moment snow testing in Västerbotten, Sweden.
Business as usual obviously, at least for Cit.
I'll probably have to pay attention to what you have to say from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
Eurosport is a good promoter...
you are joking tomi...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Hmm... Will Citroen and Ford retire after Subarus decision? Ford doesn't have a very good economy and them retiring for 2009 and back 2010 makes sense based on the economy and the fact that the car regulations will change.
However, what will come up next year? I don't think Henning will stay in Ford. My connections in France talk about him in a Bozian car, and maybe Petter as well after this decision.
What!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Putting Snooker and Tennis first, not distributing IRC, WTCC ect very well..
So no terrestrial coverage, NorthOne do distribute the WRC coverage as is..
Have you seen Eurosport's IRC coverage, it is cringeworthy with their trolley wheeled big perspex sheet with stickers plastered all over it, they have even done something similar with the microphone..
Sponsors in the WRC are given air time in a much more effective and subtle way the way things are at the moment.. ie. Not practically pushing the sponsor logo in your face..
The way they are running the IRC, They are only mentioning compeditors who have paid up eg. The Safari when Rautenbach won it.. He wasn't mentioned at all.. It was a Fiat victory as far as they were concerned.. They should be covering a rally, meaning all crews that are going for the win / points not coverage of who has paid up..
NorthOne mentions any crew that do well regardless of it is a privateer or not, regardless of what class or brand they are competing in..
If Eurosport becomes the promoter it would kill off what's left..
NorthOne need to get an advertising / marketing / promotional team going and continue what they are doing well, the TV coverage..
Rant over..
... and no I don't have any connection to North One
You must have missed Rally du Valais...Quote:
Originally Posted by bf1_IRL
WRC is not on terrestrial in the UK, it is on a digital channel specialising in repeats of old comedies, quite appropriate really ;)
This is not a rumour.. but more an observation.
DR has lost his midas touch.
The timing of the Aston Martin deal was atrocious
F1 deal went fluffy
Prodive couldnt sort out the S14, despite having a blank sheet of paper
Had to bail out of ISC.
I'll not be surprised to see layoffs at Prodrive, as their specialist enginnering division has to be feeling the pinch also.
BOZIAN????? With "some-years-old-slow-whale" Peugeot 307 WRC? Great choice! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by swordsman
You shouldn't underestimate it. Believe me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsara Fan
It wont be a whale............. Citroen only allow two private teams to run the C4, they being PHSport and Bozian.Quote:
Originally Posted by swordsman
Also Henning has said that next year he expects to be in a car that can win rallies, as he has spent the last two years in a Focus, I guess he was hinting that he is getting a C4.
Well, we'll see guys. At least remember who told you ;)
I agree with you I think it will be Bozian for Henning (& lillebror?) but I dont think it will be a 307, more likely a Bozian C4 with orange paint.Quote:
Originally Posted by swordsman
That would be good news, to get 2 more competitive cars in the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW