Rally History (part II)

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Originally Posted by feresc13

Thank you very much! Your information is pretty good!

Now I have find out another lack of information in my database, does anybody knows the dates of the Boucles Spa 1987? I just find out that won Snijers with the Lancia Delta

Thanks

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7 febbraio 1987 - 30° Boucles de Spa

You have the 2° and 3° classified ?

Regards

Giorgio

Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège 1931 / 1937

???? Orban - Jean Trasenster (Bugatti 3000)
???? Demoulin - ???? Dejardin (Citroen 2440)
???? Laloux - ???? Renard (Chrysler 3900)
???? Humpers - ???? Bove (FN 1450)
???? Orban - L???? Havelange (Bugatti 3300)
???? Laloux - Jean Trasenster (Chrysler 3900)
L???? Eggen - Orban de Xivry (Ford)
???? Collon - ???? Debroux (FN 1450)
???? Declercq - ???? Colmant (Buick 8c)
???? George Télesphore - ???? Collon (FN 8c)
Paul von Guillaume - Mme L???? Bahr (Adler 4c)
???? Duhoux - ???? Lays (Dodge 8c)
???? van Howe - ???? Essinger (Ford 4c)
???? Peeters - ???? Collon (Bugatti 8c)
???? van Naemen - ???? Canciani (Lancia 8c)
???? Bernet - ???? Sailer (Mercedes Benz 4c)
???? Franz - ???? Eggen (Ford 8c)
???? Orban - ???? Havelange (Bugatti 8c)
???? Valkenberg - ???? Havelange (Triumph 4c 1127 cc)
???? Gudy - ???? de Biollay (Imperia 6c 1800 cc)
J???? von Krohm - H???? Horman (Opel 6c 920 cc)
Michel Réal - ???? Pamard (Renault 6c 4085 cc)
Comte P???? von Orssich - Chevalier von Arentin (Adler 4c)
C???? von Guillaume - E???? Bog (Opel 6c)
???? Legré - ???? Angelvin (Panhard 6c)
Huscke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
Maurice Gatsonides - ???? van Hunt (Riley 4c)
???? Massa - ???? Brunetto (Lancia 4c)
???? Jacot - ???? Escalle (Citroen 4c)
???? Odendahl - ???? Walter Scheube (Opel 6c)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Thank you, Steve! You knows if the coefficient for ERC is 1 or 2 for Manx 1978 ?

Best regards

Giorgio

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coeff 2

Thank you Janusz !

Regards

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

7 febbraio 1987 - 30° Boucles de Spa

You have the 2° and 3° classified ?

Regards

Giorgio

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I'm sorry, but I just find out in Patrick Snijers website that he won the Boucles Spa rally. But i will try to know something else more ;)

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège 1931 / 1937
Télesphore GeorgeS - ???? Collon (FN 8c)
Comte PETER von Orssich - Chevalier von Arentin (Adler 4c)
HuscHke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
Maurice Gatsonides - WILLEM van HuUt (Riley 4c)
????DE Massa - ???? Brunetto (Lancia 4c)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by feresc13

I'm sorry, but I just find out in Patrick Snijers website that he won the Boucles Spa rally. But i will try to know something else more ;)

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1 Patrick SNIJERS Dany COLEBUNDERS B/B Lancia Delta HF 4WD A
2 Bernard MUNSTER DEMEULEMEESTER B/B Audi Coupé Quattro A
3 Dirk VERMEERSCH Danny DE CANCK B/B Audi Coupé Quattro A
4 Pascal GABAN Willy LUX B/B Mazda323 Formule 4 N
5 Jacky DELVAUX SEVRIN B/B Volkswagen Golf GTI A
6 Renaud VERREYDT Patrick JAMAR B/B Toyota Corolla GT A
7 Valère VANDERMAESEN Julien AERTS B/B Mercedes 190E 2,3 16v A
8 Jean-Pierre VAN DE WAUWER Yves BOZET B/B Toyota Corolla GT A
9 L KRECEK MOTL CZ/CZ Skoda130 LR A
10 Jean-Claude PROBST SOUGNE B/B Ford Sierra XR4x4 N

Thank you, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by kyosti

9 Ladislav KRECEK Borivoj MOTL CZ/CZ Skoda130 LR A

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Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège - 1938 / 1952

Peter Wessely - ???? Juszczynski (Steyr 6c)
???? de Massa - ???? Brunetto (Lancia 4c)
Huschke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
???? Rohricht - ???? Lobering (Hanomag 4c)
Michel Réal - ???? Perand (Simca-Fiat 4c)
???? Tragner - ???? Fritzching (Auto Union 6c)
???? Camus - Comte de la Rivelière (Citroen 4c)
Jean Trévoux - ???? Lesurque (Hotchkiss 3486)
Paul von Guillaume - W???? Kramer (Adler 2000)
M???? Muller - G???? Menz (Auto Union Wanderer 1963)
???? Momberger - ???? Weidauer (Auto Union Wanderer 1963)
A???? Masurek - ???? Rzadkowski (Chevrolet 3543)
A???? Lhor - W???? Herrmann (Adler 1985)
H???? von Wangenheim - F???? Bund (Hanomag 1985)
C???? Mazalon - Michel Réal (Citroen 1919)
A???? Delmarco - F???? Delmarco (Alfa Romeo 6c 2300)
???? Kreischer (Volvo)
????Constantin - ???? Strich (Delage 3000)
Marcel Lauga - ???? Loevenbruck (Simca 8 1221)
Georges Reip - ???? van Cauwenberghe (BMW 3500)
Jacques Herzet - ???? Baudouin (Jaguar XK120 3442)
Yves Lesur - L???? Penchennati (Simca 1090)
Pierre Stasse - ???? Hermand (Porsche 1500)
???? de Wit - ???? Devis (Fiat Stanguellini 1100)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Marathon de la Route -- Liège - Rome - Liège - 1938 / 1952
FRITZ Huschke von Hanstein - ???? Bund (Hanomag 4c 1494)
Jean Trévoux - MARCEL Lesurque (Hotchkiss 3486))
PETER MAX Müller - GUSTAV Menz (Auto Union Wanderer 1963)
AUGUST Momberger - ???? Weidauer (Auto Union Wanderer 1963)
ALEKSANDER MaZurek - ???? Rzadkowski (Chevrolet 3543) - PL-
Yves Lesur - LUIGI? Penchennati (Simca 1090)
Giorgio

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Thats, what I can add here.
Regards
Janusz

Very Thanks, Janusz!

Regards

Giorgio

Someone knows.......


9- 10 aprile 1988
Belgium

TAC Rally
Start: Tielt
Finish: Tielt

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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26-27 marzo 1988
Belgium

Rally de Hannut
Start: Hannut
Finish: Hannut

km. ????
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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11 marzo 1988
Belgium

38° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

I've read that, in order to be classified in 1987 World Rally Championship for drivers, every works driver had to have at least 1 start on a non-European rally.
However, Jean Ragnotti (a works Renault driver) was classified 5th in the Drivers' Championship with 51 points, having competed on Monte, Portugal, Corsica, Acropolis and San Remo. Not one outside Europe.

The same goes for his team-mate Francois Chatriot, as well, classified 13th, with 22 points.

Were Renault team excepted from that rule,or what?
Does anyone know anything more about that?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Kaps

I've read that, in order to be classified in 1987 World Rally Championship for drivers, every works driver had to have at least 1 start on a non-European rally.
However, Jean Ragnotti (a works Renault driver) was classified 5th in the Drivers' Championship with 51 points, having competed on Monte, Portugal, Corsica, Acropolis and San Remo. Not one outside Europe.

The same goes for his team-mate Francois Chatriot, as well, classified 13th, with 22 points.

Were Renault team excepted from that rule,or what?
Does anyone know anything more about that?

Thanks!

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According to Martin Holmes' explanation of "points rules" for WRC 1987 driver had to copete at least once to became the World Champion. There is nothing about dividing drivers as "works" and "non-works" ones and applying them different rules. But participants of Production Car Cup (group N) to be classified were obliged to take part at least one outside Europe.
Regards
Janusz

I lost few words and it makes my answer has no sence:
According to Martin Holmes' explanation of "points rules" for WRC 1987 (Pirelli World Rallying 10) driver had to compete at least once overseas to became the World Champion. There was nothing about dividing drivers into "works" and "non-works" ones and applying them different rules. But participants of Production Car Cup (group N) to be classified were obliged to take part at least one outside Europe.
Regards
Janusz

In the final results of 1987, Jean Ragnotti (5th) is considered as NP (no points) in some books and the same for Chatriot. Probably, your final results includes Ragnotti, Chatriot and some more elses (Béguin, Salonen, Loubet, Saby, Auriol...) but they must not be in an official classement.
In the constructors classement, Renault figures in third place according with the points it gets with the local 18 GTX in Argentina Rally

Regards

Someone knows.......


30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
3° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A - B
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford RS 200)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia 037 Rally)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)


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1-2 maggio 1987
4° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. ???? Walfridson - ???? Briesen (Renault 5 GT Turbo)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)


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11 marzo 1988
38° Circuit des Ardennes
Start: Dinant
Finish: Dinant

km. ????
groups N - A
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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15 maggio 1987
Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)
Sezoens Rally (1985 - 1986 - 1987 - 1988 - 1989 - 1990 - 1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994 - 1995)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Kaps

I've read that, in order to be classified in 1987 World Rally Championship for drivers, every works driver had to have at least 1 start on a non-European rally.

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Interesting point this. It's the first time I've heard about this rule, and as Janusz has already mentioned Martin Holmes doesn't say anything about it in World Rallying. When I'm home I'll check some other books, but I don't remember seeing this rule before. What is your source?

Hi kabouter!
It's been a while since I last heard from you!

Well, like janusz said, it looks like it was a one non-European start required in order to became a Drivers' world champion, and not to be eligible to be classified in the championship, as it says on jonkka's site, here, in the note in the top right corner:

http://www.juwra.com/season_1987_points.html

Hi there,

I'm new in the forum and I'm asking already help to all of you :blackeye:

Has someone of you pictures of the Audi Quattro S1 used in the Race of Champions 1990? I'm also looking to find out who were all the pilots who participated to this event..

Thank you very much


P.S.: is there a place where I can/have to introduce myself?

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Originally Posted by GrazRS

Hi there,

I'm new in the forum and I'm asking already help to all of you :blackeye:

Has someone of you pictures of the Audi Quattro S1 used in the Race of Champions 1990? I'm also looking to find out who were all the pilots who participated to this event..

Thank you very much


P.S.: is there a place where I can/have to introduce myself?

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Welcome :) I can't help you with this Audi story. You can introduce yourself in the Motorcycle racing area. ;)

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Originally Posted by Kaps

Well, like janusz said, it looks like it was a one non-European start required in order to became a Drivers' world champion, and not to be eligible to be classified in the championship, as it says on jonkka's site, here, in the note in the top right corner:

http://www.juwra.com/season_1987_points.html

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Also "Le championnat du monde des rallyes 87" by Michel Lizin and Dutch annual "Rally's & Races 87/88" do not mention this rule.

Dalmi, which book(s) list Ragnotti and Chatriot as having scored no points?

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Originally Posted by GrazRS

Hi there,

I'm new in the forum and I'm asking already help to all of you :blackeye:

Has someone of you pictures of the Audi Quattro S1 used in the Race of Champions 1990? I'm also looking to find out who were all the pilots who participated to this event..

Thank you very much

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http://audis1.no.sapo.pt/20carsonly.htm

Here´s a site with an overview of all the S1´s ever used in events, including the Race of Champions. The pilots were mostly WRC drivers like Sainz, Kankkunen, Blomqvist etc. (maybe someone else knows more).

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Originally Posted by januszsz

4. IVAN VIAENE / ROLAND DUWOLF - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH
5. JAKAE / WOELANDERS - OPEL CORSA GSI
6. CHIEL BOS / REUEINGS - FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH (N)

That's it. Maybe somebody can add missing first names.
Janusz

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Roland Dewulf (not Duwolf)
Antoon Reurings

I think Jakae might be a spelling error as well, but I don't know who it should be...

[Edit] Found it: Patrick Jamar / Yves Noelanders :D

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Originally Posted by kabouter

Roland Dewulf (not Duwolf)
Antoon Reurings

I think Jakae might be a spelling error as well, but I don't know who it should be...

[Edit] Found it: Patrick Jamar / Yves Noelanders :D

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Thank you for missing names and correction of spelling error. Do you know first names of De Borck/Comings R5 GT Turbo who finished 9th in that rally (Haspengouw'90) ?
Regards
Janusz

I'm sorry, my best guess is that it's Gerard De Boeck, possibly with a codriver named Conings, but I can't find any confirmation.

I have done some additions to the 1980 and 1981 Rallye Monte Carlo results in RallyBase last night (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...lt&rallyid=288 and http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...lt&rallyid=276 respectively) and I discovered in both editions Swiss Daihatsu drivers.

In 1980 the following car was entered in Group 1:
#82 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (38th overall)

In 1981 there are the following cars, all in Group 2:
#44 Carron - Schaer (retired, classified 93rd)
#50 Chapuis - Bernasconi (unknown)
#63 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (28th overall)

The only car I could find that Daihatsu produced in those days that could be suitable for rallying is the 1-litre Charade. Is it correct that's the car used?

And does anyone know the first names of Carron (was it Jean-Marie or was it Philippe), Schaer, Chapuis and Bernasconi, and what happened to Chapuis?

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Originally Posted by kabouter

Also "Le championnat du monde des rallyes 87" by Michel Lizin and Dutch annual "Rally's & Races 87/88" do not mention this rule.

Dalmi, which book(s) list Ragnotti and Chatriot as having scored no points?

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On this subject, I recall Ragnotti certainly being listed in the championship points tables in magazines and on TV at the time. It could have been a mistake, but I somehow doubt they would have calculated the standings themselves without reference to the official listings.

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Originally Posted by kabouter

I'm sorry, my best guess is that it's Gerard De Boeck, possibly with a codriver named Conings, but I can't find any confirmation.

I have done some additions to the 1980 and 1981 Rallye Monte Carlo results in RallyBase last night (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...lt&rallyid=288 and http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...lt&rallyid=276 respectively) and I discovered in both editions Swiss Daihatsu drivers.

In 1980 the following car was entered in Group 1:
#82 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (38th overall)

In 1981 there are the following cars, all in Group 2:
#44 Carron - Schaer (retired, classified 93rd)
#50 Chapuis - Bernasconi (unknown)
#63 Mario Luini - Michel Wyder (28th overall)

The only car I could find that Daihatsu produced in those days that could be suitable for rallying is the 1-litre Charade. Is it correct that's the car used?

And does anyone know the first names of Carron (was it Jean-Marie or was it Philippe), Schaer, Chapuis and Bernasconi, and what happened to Chapuis?

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Chapuis was 33rd overall (MC'81).
I have: Jean-Marie Carron, Pierre Schaer, Eric D. Chapuis and Edy Bernasconi. There were turbocharged Charades, too. But I don't know which model they used in MC'80 and MC'81.
Regards
Janusz

In 1981:

Eric Chapuis - Enzo (not Edy) Bernasconi

Regards

Giorgio

Someone knows.......


1-2 maggio 1987
Belgium

4° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. ???? Walfridson - ???? Briesen (Renault 5 GT Turbo)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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7-? febbraio 1987
Belgium

30° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
2. Bernard Munster - ???? Demeulemeester (Audi Quattro Coupé)
3. Dirk Vermeersch - Daniel de Canck (Audi Quattro Coupé)
4. Pascal Gaban - Willy Lux (Mazda 323)
5. Jacky Delvaux - ???? Sevrin (Volkswagen Golf GTI)

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30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
Belgium

3° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A - B
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford RS 200)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia 037 Rally)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - ???? ???? (Lancia Delta HF)
2. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)
3. ???? ???? - ???? ???? (????)

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The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (1993 - 1994 - 1995 - 1996 - 1997 - 1998 - 1999)
Rally de Wallonie (1991 - 1992 - 1993 - 1994)

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Someone knows.......
6-8 febbraio 1987
Belgium

30° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. 2
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
2. Bernard Munster - ???? Demeulemeester (Audi Quattro Coupé)
3. Dirk Vermeersch - Daniel de Canck (Audi Quattro Coupé)
4. Pascal Gaban - Willy Lux (Mazda 323)
5. Jacky Delvaux - DELPLACE (Volkswagen Golf GTI)
6. RENAUD VERREYDT - PATRICK JAMAR (TOYOTA COROLLA GT 16V)
7. ?? VANDERMAESEN - ?? AERTS (MERCEDES 190E 2.3-16)
8. JEAN PIERRE VAN DE WAUWER - YVES BOZET (TOYOTA COROLLA GT 16V)
9. LADISLAV KRECEK - BORIVOJ BOTL (SKODA 130 LR)
10. J-C. PROBST - ?? SOUGNE (FORD SIERRA XR4X4)

29-31 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. 1
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. ROBERT DROOGMANS - RONY JOOSTEN (FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH)
2. BENGT-INGE STEFANSSON - MATTI HAKALA (VOLVO 240 TURBO)
3. GABY GOUDEZEUNE - ?? CALLEWAERT (OPEL MANTA)
4. ?? VANDERMAESEN - ?? AERTS (MERCEDES 190E 2.3-16)
5. Patrick Snijers - DANY COLEBUNDERS (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
6. MOHAMAD BEN SULAYEM - JOHN SPILLER (FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH)
7. PASCAL GABAN - WILLY LUX (MAZDA 323 4WD TURBO) GR.N
8. ?? VANDENBERGE - ?? GOEMINNE (OPEL MANTA)
9. MARC DUEZ - GEORGES BIAR (BMW M3)
10. ?? STONEMAN - ?? KERNAGHAM (FORD SIERRA RS COSWORTH)



Giorgio

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Regards
Janusz

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Someone knows.......


1-2 maggio 1987
Belgium

4° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A
championnat de belgique des rallyes
national rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2. Lars-Erik Walfridson - ???? Briesen (Renault 5 GT Turbo)
3. Berndt-Inge Stefansson-Hakala(Volvo 240 Turbo)

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7-? febbraio 1987
Belgium

30° Boucles de Spa
Start: Spa
Finish: Spa

km. ???
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia Delta HF 4WD)
2. Bernard Munster - ???? Demeulemeester (Audi Quattro Coupé)
3. Dirk Vermeersch - Daniel de Canck (Audi Quattro Coupé)
4. Pascal Gaban - Willy Lux (Mazda 323)
5. Jacky Delvaux - ???? Sevrin (Volkswagen Golf GTI)

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30 maggio - 1 giugno 1986
Belgium

3° Rally de Wallonie
Start: Jambes
Finish: Jambes

km. ???
groups N - A - B
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans - Ronny Joosten (Ford RS 200)
2. Patrick Snijers - Daniel Colebunders (Lancia 037 Rally)
3. Mario Panontin - Ferfoglia (Lancia 037 Rally)

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15 maggio 1987
Belgium

Haspengouw Rally
Start: Landen
Finish: Landen

km. ????
groups N - A - B
fia european rally championship - coeff. ??
championnat de belgique des rallyes
international rally

Results:
1. Robert Droogmans -Ronny Joosten(Ford Sierra RS Cosworth)
2. Berndt-Inge Stefansson-Hakala(Volvo 240 Turbo)
3. Gaby Goudezeune-Callewaert(Opel Manta GTE)

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The dates for:
Rally Omloop van Vlaanderen (11-12 sep 1993) - (10-11 sep 1994) -(09-10 sep 1995) -(07-08 sep 1996) - (13-14 sep 1997) - (12-13 sep 1998) - (11-12 sep1999)
Rally de Wallonie (04-06 Oct 1991) - (22-23 mai 1992) - (14-16 mai 1993) - (19-20 mai 1994)
03-04 jun
Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Please

Very thanks, Janusz and Kyosti!

Regards

Giorgio

Thank you for the information Janusz and Giorgio. I think it's Edy Bernasconi in 1981 by the way, or could Edy and Enzo be the same person?

Some first names from Boucles de Spa and Haspengouw 1987:
Valère Vandermaesen - Julien Aerts
Rob Stoneman - Roy Kernaghan
codriver of Renaud Verreydt is Jean-Manuel Jamar

2nd in Wallonie 1987: Lars-Erik Walfridsson (Swe) and Guy Briesen (Bel).

Hello,

Does anyone know where I could find some pictures of Minna Sillankorva, 1991 FIA Ladies' World Rally Champion? Her or her car will do.
Also, are there any sites with Finnish national rally results? I don't read Finnish so find it hard to navigate round Finnish rallying sites.
It's for my website.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Welcome :) I can't help you with this Audi story. You can introduce yourself in the Motorcycle racing area. ;)

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... in Germany on the Nurburgring? I was there.

Let's see if we can fill some more holes in the RallyBase WRC results.

For Rally Argentina 1994 somebody sent me the results from Autosprint. I'll list the

finishers outside the top 10 here - can anyone fill in missing first names, entry numbers,

and confirm/correct nationalities?
11 (??) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (??) ? Roca / ? Schmidt (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (??) ? Bregagnolo / ? Spaciuk (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (??) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (??) Nelson? Sanabria / ? Bogado (PAR?) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
-- (??) ? Cravero / Ezequiel? Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
-- (??) ? Mariano / ? Manavella (ARG?) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
-- (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
-- (??) ? Sanabria / ? Rodríguez (PAR?) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (??) ? Pappalardo / ? Muhr (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (??) Alejandro Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (??) ? Morosano / ? Marquet (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45

As you can see there are four crews between Reininger in 16th and Levalle in 20th. I guess one of these four was excluded or retired on the final road section. Does anyone know who is the odd one out ;)

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Originally Posted by kabouter

Let's see if we can fill some more holes in the RallyBase WRC results.

For Rally Argentina 1994 somebody sent me the results from Autosprint. I'll list the

finishers outside the top 10 here - can anyone fill in missing first names, entry numbers,

and confirm/correct nationalities?
11 (??) Santos + Adriana Manzanares (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 7:40.39
12 (??) ? Roca / ? Schmidt (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:47.49
13 (??) ? Bregagnolo / ? Spaciuk (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 7:55.13
14 (??) Pablo Gaviña / Adriana Iriart Urruty (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:15.58
15 (??) Nelson? Sanabria / ? Bogado (PAR?) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:16.08
16 (31) Stefan Reininger / Robert Csösz (AUT) Renault Clio W. (N) 8:25.05
-- (??) ? Cravero / Ezequiel? Queralt (ARG) VW Gol 1.6 (A) 8:26.45
-- (??) ? Mariano / ? Manavella (ARG?) Fiat Regata 85 (A) 8:28.08
-- (??) ? Martini / ? Vitola (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:29.53
-- (??) ? Sanabria / ? Rodríguez (PAR?) Lada Samara 1.6 (A) 8:42.53
20 (55) Enrique Levalle / Patricio Isakson (CHI) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 8:51.18
21 (??) ? Pappalardo / ? Muhr (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 8:58.15
22 (106) Gustavo Dechecchi / Mario Ramos (ARG) Subaru Justy (N) 9:03.53
23 (107) Heriberto Ortíz / Atilio Rolandi (ARG) Suzuki Swift GTI (N) 9:07.28
24 (??) Alejandro Saillen / Claudio Henin (ARG) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:10.59
25 (??) ? Morosano / ? Marquet (ARG?) Renault 18 GTX (A) 9:23.45

As you can see there are four crews between Reininger in 16th and Levalle in 20th. I guess one of these four was excluded or retired on the final road section. Does anyone know who is the odd one out ;)

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Martini/Vitola are those guys you are looking for. I have no information what happened to them they are not classified.
Regards
Janusz

Does somebody knows if there was any special stage ran at night in the Acropolis Rally 1993? Thank you