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To many factors are at play to just look at a clock, Rally isn't drag racing. The bigest factor for Petter having such a big time difference with Lobe in Greece was once Lobe was 20 seconds ahead there was no way of catching hem. Then all Petter had to do was defend second. He could have pushed to the end in hopes of Lobe making a mistake but the chances of that happening verses damaging his own car is to high in Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
If Markko's comment is a true reflection of the new car's performance on the asphalt, Chris has a good chance of grabbing a few more podiums on the asphalt this year, and with little bit luck possibly a win!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Ford tarmac tests in Spain :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2008/07/...e-sa-spec-2008
2008 spec ?
Think Wilson said they would stick with the 07 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
There will be a new homologation on the existing car due for Germany. Will consist of minor engine changes and not much more.
It now appears Ford were testing the 08 spec car as well as S2000 parts in Spain
http://www.rallybuzz.com/news-ford-r...-spain-msport/
I just came back from checking out some testing for 1000 Lakes, first Munchies Ford test, i think it was Companc driving, nothing much to say about that one except it was good we vent to that one first, else it would have looked quite slow, the other test was Citroens and Loeb was driving, the speed was offcourse good aswell as the car. Citroen has now changed their policy, they dont let people go to the service anymore.
Petter testing in Finland
http://www.vgb.no/30397
Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njcUQ21a_lwQuote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Citroën also :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2008/07/...si-en-finlande
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Originally Posted by Tomi
They must have something to hide if they dont let people into the service anymore!!!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by c4
I would have thought the Ford marketing men would have wanted the new front off the road Focus on the rally car too......
Are you suggesting Citroen are cheats?Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Einstein.. They just dont want any other teams copying any of their ideas.
I dont know why that is like that now (propably the woman engineers idea, also any picture taking for the press is phrobidden if they work on the car), else they acted a bit strange too, they changed suddenly the test stage in the middle of the day too, Loeb said the first stage was too narrow, he had some close calls there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Citroen cheating.....NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
The FIA looking the other way so the golden boy stays on top.....NO!
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Originally Posted by Tomi
:laugh: Maybe you once believe what I try here to say already 2 years now. :p
All companies hide always, however, something.
I have been on too much companies in complete Europe, with my eyes open!!! They cheat all and hide all, however, something! Yes also in wrc teams! :s mokin:
Offcourse all teams try to hide something, but I think this has more to do with that they want to work undisturbed, i understood that the day before there was quite many people there watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
The written orders that citroen did send from the headquarters was even more stricth, for instance they wanted the plate numbers of those who use the road while there is a test going on, paranoia i would say, but offcourse the guys who closed the road did not collect them.
Afraid of spying? It look likes Citroen want to do everything to win this event this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I don't say it is impossible. It is Loeb behind the steering wheel :\
Lol, I dont see what use there would be for some team to spy on some other, they use different cars, also they dont know a thing about the times on the test, propably just someone at the headquarter has lost the contact to reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
Some 1000lakes-test picturelinks from ralli.net forum
http://picasaweb.google.fi/SPKolsi/S...tit8708Solberg
http://picasaweb.google.fi/tnevez/Norf08Testej
http://www.suti.pictures.fi/kuvat/RA...+2008+finland/
pics from Citroen, Ford and Subaru testing.
Petter Sohlberg´s 2nd testday in Finland:
http://www.toniollikainen.com/galler...erg/index.html
Uh ? You serious ? Spying opponents 'solutions' has always been a "must" in motorsports !Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Do you remember also Ford hiding their brand new car in Australia 2005 under a tent ? But when a mechanical problem happened and one of the cars stopped in the middle of the road, a lot of Citroen guys were seeing everything they could because the bonnet was open !
Sorry, it´s Solberg. My mistake, but anyway...there is some pics. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by toniol
well the citroen is hardly a new car anymore, also all drives with same tyres, no surprises really, also if citroen find something new in setups , it propably wont help ford and the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helstar
Okay, okay dudes! ;)
I make new "SOLBERG"-link :)
http://www.toniollikainen.com/galler...erg/index.html
I didn't see it before, but on the pics of Pantealex in the grill of the C4 I see something. Maybe it is nothing new, or spectacular. Maybe it is.
Here you see it only right sight of the car.
http://picasaweb.google.fi/tnevez/No...63344013183826
Here on both sides.
http://picasaweb.google.fi/tnevez/No...63712753129570
What a load of BS...spying will always be important. Lots of new stuff have been taken from competitors since motorsport started and it will never stop. Aren't you being just a bit naive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Surely spying would be a great help when cars are using car specific homogolated parts which you can renew only once a year and custom designed only for your use dampers/suspension parts ... IMO due to homogolation restrictions "spying" in rallying is less important than i other forms of motorsport.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
offcourse im naive, but maybe you should check the rules once then maybe you understand why spying really dont make much sence.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I know where you're headed, but are you saying that there is no reason whatsoever to keep an eye of your competitor?? It's like you would live in a complete darkness....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I dont know to how many WRC tests you have been, but usually there is really not any big secrets, if they have something secret they sure test those stuff somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I've been there couple of times, usually hasn't been any secrets, true. But if they chose to act like this, then i'm more than sure that it has some good reasons (which we cannot predict) for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
There is, on first testday too many people at the test wanting interviews, press etc., also they unexpected changed teststage in the middle of the second day, Loeb lost about 2-3 hours test time.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I'll rest my case, nothing to argue about :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
I didn't see that before also. It seems to be like a piece of paper to fill a hole ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
Harri Rovanperä has been helping Citroen (Sordo) for their set up fo Rally Finland...
Does anyone know is the woman engineer at citroen the same person that was Rovanperäs competition engineer at Peugeot?
Yes she is. Last year she was with Kronos-Citroen and now in the work´s test team...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
ok thanks, "ettei olis vaan alkanut vanha suola janottamaan" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rp