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9th October 2007, 23:17
Breeze

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Originally Posted by Sparky1329

...........................They have also been in premier rides. BDR is not even close to premier.

I'm sure JV will eventually figure it out. Whether he will win races or not is another story.

True enough about BDR the last few years. However, the CoT seems to be an equalizer and the 'yoda engine appears to be making more power, much as it pains me to say it. And Slugger Labbe can cheat with the best of them!! :p :

Next year will be mostly learning curve for JV, just as it has been for Montoya and the other rookies in the series. What he may be able to do that hasn't been talked about here is bring big money sponsorship to BDR. Enough to buy the best engineering and crew, maybe??
9th October 2007, 23:44
call_me_andrew

It's easy to win races at an old age when everyone you're racing against is old.

The Toyotas were only fast in qualifying because they didn't qualify on race setups like the top 35 teams did. It's not a matter of horsepower. They may have a few (and I mean few as in "insignificant") more horsepower, but they seem to lack torque.
10th October 2007, 00:52
muggle not

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Muggle, no...but until he is not racing a vehicle with rookie stripes on it, cut the guy some slack. Also, in NASCAR, old guys win more often than any other form of racing, and Jacques is just a few years older than Jeffy Gordon, so I would hardly say his best days are that far in the rear view mirror.

As for his future success, the man will be fighting to get near the chase likely. Unlike some JV fans, I am under no illusions to what he may or may not do. I think like most good drivers who show up in NASCAR in mid career, they have times where they do well, but for the most part, it will be hit and miss. NASCAR has too much depth and is too unique for a guy in mid-career from another series to just jump in and challenge for a championship. He may win a race, he may run up front on occasion, but without a top team and good schooling, he will likely not see the Chase. JPM I think has done better than people expected, but again, he is in the 10 to 20 area in the points most of the time....and I think that is JV's fate as well.

Uh, I wonder where the 10 came from, seems to me he has been closer to the 20 most if not all of the time. :)
10th October 2007, 01:34
RaceFanStan

Jeff Gordon used a good stradegy @Talladega .....
race where Villeneuve WASN'T & at the end of the race that was up front ! http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ink/orn/00.gif
10th October 2007, 01:44
JasonD

Not matter what you guys would find some way to critize JV.

Like it or not hes here, and isnt leaving anytime soon. If he does good you will all say he was lucky and if he crashes you will all be, see he cant drive.

JV has real talent, much like a lot of other guys in NASCAR. He'll have a tough time winning since the field is so deep with talent.

JV does have an arrogance about him, but maybe its because hes that damn good and well if any of you had a speck of his talent, (or even if I did), we would be taking our shot at it.
10th October 2007, 04:02
Lee Roy

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Originally Posted by call_me_andrew

It's easy to win races at an old age when everyone you're racing against is old.

Drivers used to have longer careers in open-wheel racing . . . . that is, when driving in open-wheel could be considered a "career". Mario Andretti won at age 53. The oldest to ever win in NASCAR was Harry Gant at 52.
10th October 2007, 17:52
Sparky1329

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Originally Posted by Breeze

True enough about BDR the last few years. However, the CoT seems to be an equalizer and the 'yoda engine appears to be making more power, much as it pains me to say it. And Slugger Labbe can cheat with the best of them!! :p :

Next year will be mostly learning curve for JV, just as it has been for Montoya and the other rookies in the series. What he may be able to do that hasn't been talked about here is bring big money sponsorship to BDR. Enough to buy the best engineering and crew, maybe??

And therein lies the problem. Without competitive equipment JV's results might not be what they could've been in premier stuff. If the results aren't there neither will the sponsors be there. It's the Catch 22 that the middle-of-the-road teams all face.
10th October 2007, 18:01
muggle not

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Originally Posted by Sparky1329

And therein lies the problem. Without competitive equipment JV's results might not be what they could've been in premier stuff. If the results aren't there neither will the sponsors be there. It's the Catch 22 that the middle-of-the-road teams all face.

Ain't that the truth. They pay for air time. Number of "looks".
10th October 2007, 18:22
Sparky1329

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Originally Posted by muggle not

Ain't that the truth. They pay for air time. Number of "looks".

On a positive note....wrecked cars get a lot of TV time too. ;)
10th October 2007, 21:09
Robert Ryan

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Jeff Gordon used a good stradegy @Talladega .....
race where Villeneuve WASN'T & at the end of the race that was up front !

It took Jeff Gordon 3 yrs in Cup to do that. It was JV's FIRST race in Cup

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