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One further thing worth pointing out is the continued existence in some countries of blasphemy laws. Were a government to impose laws forbidding criticism of itself, it would rightly be considered a dictatorship, yet there are those of various religious beliefs — including Christianity — who deem such laws perfectly acceptable as a means of protecting religion from its critics.
Yes, There is a God and she is black.
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Originally Posted by race aficionado
You make some interesting points, and do so very well. I'm not sure about the above, though. It's not all about making decisions, but general reasoning. I have no objection to someone believing that a person has recovered from illness as a result of divine intervention, but the thought process behind such reasoning utterly fails me given the nature of modern medical understanding. One may as well blame a nearby magician or the alignment of the stars.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
But.... there are many instances where modern medicine still does not understand nor can they explain many exceptions to the modern medical norm. My mother in law lived almost a decade after a number of highly qualified doctors told us that she would be quite lucky to survive the next 6 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
If everyone lived in a world of absolutes, I would have to assume that modern medicine is ignorant of medical facts and misguided. Or I could accept the fact the the world has very few absolutes.
If aetheists and those of religion often come to the same conclusions on moral issues, it doesn't concern me in the slightest how they came to that conclusion. All of them have guidance of some sort in the making of their decisions and it could easily be said that some if not many of us overcome guidance that at some point we deem was incorrect and/or inapropriate. There are also quite a number of educated people that should know better that remain without much moral fiber.
I have been thinking about this and yes, of course atheists and those of religion would come to the same conclusion on moral issues. C. S. Lewis wrote that moral law exists as surely as the laws of nature exist except that those laws can be ignored or broken. That was the basis of his book, Mere Christianity, which was based on radio talks given on the BBC in 1942-1944. C.S.Lewis as many may or may not know, was an atheist who converted to theism, and finally to Christianity. I had forgotten this. I have the book somewhere and may just be compelled to reread it.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
As an aside, there is an advert for a Global Atheist Convention in Melbourne this April. What the hell is a "Global Atheist Convention"? A bunch of people getting together to agree with each other that gods don't exist? WTF?
Always a scientist . . . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
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Okay, first incomplete facts and assumptions, now judging people (me) by association. I wonder how much you've progressed with defending your point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
A pretty rubbish rebuttal of what I had to say, in my view. Could you address the points in hand, please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz