Wikileaks

We will soon see some leaks deliberately released by Governments for political purposes or that are misleading to discredit Wikileaks.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

As you wish, of course, if talk is cheap, yours comes out of the bargain basement.

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Originally Posted by skc

We will soon see some leaks deliberately released by Governments for political purposes or that are misleading to discredit Wikileaks.

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Wikileaks has already done more than enough to discredit themselves, something that will be overlooked by those that see them as a saviour of sorts.

The majority of information relased through Wikileaks is nothing that should surprise anyone that looks at the realities of diplomatic relations between countries. Such relations are as often as not simply efforts for two groups that distrust each other to project trust outward, yet inwardly retain their distrust of the other.

A great deal of the information they have released is also edited or otherwise selected information that really doesn't provide the big picture of the issues at hand regardless. IMHO it isn't much difference from the radical news names, often cherry picking facts that suit their agenda, and ignoring the other facts in the matter.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...s-us-air-force

The USA appears to be inching towards internet censorship. They can no longer take the moral high ground when dealing with the Great Firewall of China, I guess.

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They will do whatever to keep their citizens away from the truth.
Obama you're a failure. :down:

I wonder why some people still believe that the US can offer them more than their own countries?!

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Then is the little issue of the Bill of Rights 1689 which does apply to him being both an Australian Citizen and being in the UK, and there also is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but the US recognises neither of these.

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Which puts the US on the exact same level with China.

In about a year the headlines will read "Julian and Bubba are Lovers" :)

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Originally Posted by Roamy

In about a year the headlines will read "Julian and Bubba are Lovers" :)

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Maybe you should send Julian some buttplugs, being the equal opportunity popper that you are.

My simple guesses are:

Assange and others like him have an axe to grind against certain powers that be, for grievances real or imagined. This is not being done with the sole altruistic purpose of bringing light to the world.

Assange is probably not a completely clean, upstanding citizen himself and there is certainly no reason to make him disappear or you'd already be looking for him. He'll get a couple of million off of book and movie deals, become a blown out of proportion cult hero like Che, and recede into obscurity.

He practises the very same censorship he claims to oppose by deciding what to release and when to use the black marker. You can bet he won't release anything that sheds a critical light on any cause or organization he supports.

All things considered, he's just another fad.

Keep on guessing.

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Originally Posted by skc

Funny thing about those charges in Sweden.

One of the charges relates to a condom that split during consensual sex. Both claim the act was consensual and indeed, both parties spent the next day together, but retrospectively, Miss A went to the police and with the other woman, claimed Assange split the condom on purpose. Apparently this is sexual molestation. Mind you, a man like Assange might have thought twice about touching Miss A if he had of known she had worked in the Swedish Embassy in the US and is suspected of being on the payroll of the CIA. Her University Thesis is also quite interesting :laugh:

The other one is just as intriguing who after going down on the accused in a Cinema and making 'love' to him, then claimed he raped her while she slept?

This is all just heresy and I cannot corroborate these claims or even swear they are real or fictional but the charges seem to be more serious than the evidence at hand......

I don't know what it's all about but there is more to this than what we can see. Both women have stated that they do not see Julian Assange as a threat but it seems they feel he should be taught a lesson???

As one website claims; "Man of Mystery or a website geek with a hard on?"

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Funny thing about these rape conspiracy theories.

If the Americans wanted Assange the last thing they would do is to have him extradited from the UK to Sweden. Thanks to the extradition treaties between the US and the UK if the Americans wanted him extradited they wouldn't have to present the case and evidence against him in a British court. The Americans however wouldn't be treated anywhere near as leniently in a Swedish court where they would have their case rigorously tested.

By all accounts Assange was a bit of a ladies man and used his reputation as the public face of wikileaks to bed quite a few women. He was warned that this would get him into trouble by some of his friends and colleagues but clearly couldn't keep his pants on.

If he truly had nothing to fear from the Swedish allegations he'd do well to go there and face them. As I wrote above he'd be far safer in Sweden than he would be in the UK if he really fears extradition to America.

It doesn't matter if he is in Sweden or not. If the US want to extradite him from Sweden, they would need togo through the UK as they maintain juristriction of him, not Sweden.