Almost official: USF1 wouldn't race in 2010

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Well if the situation is as dire as it has been suggested then this inspection will have only one outcome - the end of USF1.

I feel so sorry for the workers and fans of USF1 who clearly so wanted this to work but they have been screwed over by Windsor.

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Why only one person screwing them over? By all accounts, blame can't be apportioned that easily.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Why only one person screwing them over? By all accounts, blame can't be apportioned that easily.

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Well I could've gone on (and did for a while before I deleted it) but the fact remains that this project - whilst a brilliant idea - was doomed by terrible mismanagement.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Well I could've gone on (and did for a while before I deleted it) but the fact remains that this project - whilst a brilliant idea - was doomed by terrible mismanagement.

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Agreed, but certainly not just by Windsor.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Agreed, but certainly not just by Windsor.

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True. I just can't understand how, with such a unclear business plan, they made it through the FIA's vetting system.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

FIA grew some.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81677

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Must be a significant time delay between the US and the rest of the world. USF1's plans have been highly questionable for some time, along with Campos, and the FIA really should've been more pro-active in looking into how the preparations are going along.

The FIA are going to come out of this looking just as bad as the USF1 management.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Windsor asked "Who doesn't think we will make Bahrain?" and was SHOCKED at the hands shown? THAT is a man who is swimming in the wrong water.

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lol

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Originally Posted by Sonic

True. I just can't understand how, with such a unclear business plan, they made it through the FIA's vetting system.

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Well, thank Max Mosley for that.
Add to that blackmailing teams to use cosworth, and refusing entry tot hose that didn't want to, add to that a hasty decision to try and undermine FOTA, lack of a serous vetting process, etc, etc, etc.

Now Campos and USF1 can claim that they thought the economic climate would be different and at the time, Mosley was pushing for a ridiculously low budget cap on all teams, but what these two groups failed to understand ( and that's a pretty amateurish mistake to make) is that starting up a team, along with required cost is far more of daunting an expensive task, than running a team wiht a set budget. Seems to me that never took into account the immense startup costs required to get a team operational. There is blame to go all the way around 40% Mad Max and 60% the teams, who should have known (as many other did a long time ago) that they were far, far from qualified to be a proper F1 team.

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Originally Posted by christophulus

Must be a significant time delay between the US and the rest of the world. USF1's plans have been highly questionable for some time, along with Campos, and the FIA really should've been more pro-active in looking into how the preparations are going along.

The FIA are going to come out of this looking just as bad as the USF1 management.

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yep, pretty much. But they can put away their embarrassment by allowing Stefan GP in an nixing USF1's entry for 2010, whilst placing them on a reserve list for 2011. People, media,fans will soon forget about the USF1 debacle and focus on Stefan GP. If the fIA do the right thing people will be more forgiving. and Jean Todt has a great excuse to blame the misgiving on, namely the former president.

the sooner they do this the better for the integrity of the sport and the sooner we will forget about the mess and focus on 26 cars in 2010

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Originally Posted by Sonic

True. I just can't understand how, with such a unclear business plan, they made it through the FIA's vetting system.

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I find the whole thing, as described in the 'insider' account linked to earlier in the thread, quite astonishing to be honest. Even leaving aside completely the FIA's vetting process, and to some extent the USF1 business plan, it is clear that certain senior people in the team just didn't do their work anything like on time, and as a result the car simply didn't materialise. How on earth was this allowed to go unchecked? That is where the FIA then comes in. I am loathe to be too critical of the FIA at present, as I see nothing so far in Todt's presidency to object to and reckon there's quite a bit in his approach to be pleased about, but in the USF1 case it has fallen down on the job, and badly.

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Originally Posted by truefan72

Well, thank Max Mosley for that.
Add to that blackmailing teams to use cosworth, and refusing entry tot hose that didn't want to, add to that a hasty decision to try and undermine FOTA, lack of a serous vetting process, etc, etc, etc.

Now Campos and USF1 can claim that they thought the economic climate would be different and at the time, Mosley was pushing for a ridiculously low budget cap on all teams, but what these two groups failed to understand ( and that's a pretty amateurish mistake to make) is that starting up a team, along with required cost is far more of daunting an expensive task, than running a team wiht a set budget. Seems to me that never took into account the immense startup costs required to get a team operational. There is blame to go all the way around 40% Mad Max and 60% the teams, who should have known (as many other did a long time ago) that they were far, far from qualified to be a proper F1 team.

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That about sums it up.