Gridgirl, that is really scary. You should put some rock salt down on the drive if you can get some....THAT is dangerous to be even walking on.
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Gridgirl, that is really scary. You should put some rock salt down on the drive if you can get some....THAT is dangerous to be even walking on.
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
It's funny how some people get accustomed to the cold. My brother works most of the winter outside on his hill sheep farm so he is used to cold weather (mostly wind chill). Whenever I go and help hm after about 5 minutes of being outdoors I get a 'runny' nose. It makes him laugh because he never does.
What do they do in your cold countries about the pavements? Do they grit them too, clean off the snow? or just leave it? I remember in Turin they just left them and it got really really slushy, surely that doesn't happen everywhere?
They said on the BBC that in some parts of Oslo they have underfloor heating on the pavements so that the snow never settles and the ice never forms, impressive!
Oslo is unique in that Drew. Here, with the size and amount of roads, that wouldn't happen. Here, they plow and use rock salt. It is good to about -15 and if gets below that, they use a salt/sand mix. Lately the roads have been sprayed with a brine to stop the snow from adhering to the asphalt. I know in Alberta and out on the Canadian Praries they use more sand, and drive more on snow or roads just scraped free by ploughs. The cold pretty much dictates it. Salt eats cars, damages the electronics if not sealed well, and has an ecological downside, but everything would stop dead if not used to some extent. Heavy traffic volumes make the road a mess if the snow is packing down too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew
You guys are having this debate on whether to buy winter tires and it isn't to me a case of making sense to spend the money on tires for a week or two of snow a year. If you get a spell like this last two weeks, maybe it is because the UK doesn't have the road clearance equipment like Ontario or other winter jurisdiction do. does.
In addition to winter tyres, ESP is a must in winter conditions. It's worth noting that nowadays the ESP light flashes in my dashboard all the time while in the summer you forget there is the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by GridGirl
I'd like to copyright the term "reductio ad slipum" - like Godwin's law which specifies that any discussion about rights will slide inevitably towards "that's how the Nazis got started, my phrase is an acknowledgement of how, when talking about clearing pavements somebody will - with tedious predictibility - state that if somebody slips on a path you've cleared you can get sued.
I'm not even sure it's true, I believe that it's an urban myth based on ambulance chasing lawyers issuing proceedings that don't get defended due to fear or ignorance of the legal system.
i don't mind if someone sues me as long as I actuallly get to injure them properly. It's only fair
No Dave, it's an urban myth invented by The Daily Mirror.
They ran a story about somebody getting sued for clearing a path, when in reality he was sued by somebody for wetting a path which turned to ice that he had then tried to half heartedly clear up (he claimed) but in fact had left covered in ice when nowhere else was.
In short, one total dick ruined it for everyone else. The dick in question was a Mirror journalist, not the ice-maker.
when I was in Helsinki in the 80s,the heat from the power stations was in pipes under the pavements ,it was fed into the stores and factorys I believe,to heat them ,and it kept the pavements clear.
Just one more thing about ESP,I tow a caravan and ALWAYS knock ESP off when towing,because when you pass a truck at speed ,and try to steer slightly out to avoid the sucking in ,the ESP fights you as it suspects your actions are wrong.Handbooks tell you to disengage the ESP for towing
Well my winter tyres that I ordered are somewhere near Hannover now. Come on Fritz! I want my tyres!