Maybe he was referring to the band Caligula who were around in the early 90s? Surely of more relevance .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln7G4hkA_qs
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Maybe he was referring to the band Caligula who were around in the early 90s? Surely of more relevance .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln7G4hkA_qs
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
There are 2 sides to this.
1. Renault as a solid foundation in Motorsport. F1, F Renault, Clio, Rally etc. That gives them huge sway within the FIA.
2. Flav blotted his copy-book with his antics during the Breakaway drama. This offended Max and put him in the line for retribution.
So, Renault get off scott free with what Max acknowledges is an unparalled act of cheating and Flav gets thrown to the wolves.
It's no wonder there is such unrest over this. McLaren have a Ferrari dossier that was not used on car development but seems to have been discussed amongst drivers yet they get $100m fine. Renault commit a similar crime and have the data for a year on their computers but hardly get investigated and get off Scott free.
Then we have this latest offence and they are not punished again.
We have a precident. If you have enough money in the sport and even if the most seniour people commit the worst acts of cheating, you are imune from penalty.
I bet Renault are quaking in their boots about the next crime they commit.
So, is there any prospect of Flavio launching a legal challenge against the FIA?
As for Renault getting off, without so much of a points deduction, all I can say is that Carlos Gohn must go to the same Lodge as Max.
Solidarity Brothers!
Well, if they design another Avantime, that is crime enough for me... eeeeuuuugggghhhhhh!!!!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
I think the suspended ban is good one - why punish 100's of workers who had nothing to do with it
2ndly if my workmate steals my purse/bag whatever at work, is it the company's fault - No its the theif that gets sacked.
so I dont get what the fuss is about
The whole team benefitted from prize money etc. At the VERY least, Renault should really have been retrospectively DSQ'd from the 2008 standings, stripped of their points and fined whatever prize money they received as a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozrevhead
But, I think we all know that this was all about Max v Flavio, don't we?
In fact, it is so blatant it is cringeworthy. Max knows his position is untouchable.
WTF does Max v Flavio have to do with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Did Max force Flav to fix the race? Did max force Coughlan to accept the docs from Stepney?
This sort of thing is just lame. Flav did what he did and paid for it. just accept it. A witch hunt is only a witch hunt when they're burning innocent people.
What I mean is, the fact that the Renault F1 Team fixed a race, conspiring with their driver(s) Piquet in so doing, has provided the fuel for Max to punish Flavio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
If it was more about handing down sensible punishments and deterrants, regardless of whether Renault may or may not exit the sport, then appropriate measures - docking of points, monetary fine etc - is what should have been given.
No buts..... you're not meant to have your competitors documents and you should be penalised for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on