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Originally Posted by truefan72
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I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Yep, but they wouldn't have lost last year's drivers championship if they had a clear number one driver who always finishes ahead of his teammate, by team order if necessary. Personally I think that kind of team policy is unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Really? And how would you have done that when you have two drivers like Felipe and Kimi?Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
1. They chose at the beginning of the season to support Kimi and he than has the slump in performance he had until not so long ago. WDC title would have been lost by more than one point.
2. They chose to support Felipe and he comes within 1 point of the WDC because engine and pit failures.
Looks to me that if Ferrari would have made one less technical mistake they would have got both titles last year. A much easier solution than trying to guess which of the two drivers to support.
What I'm saying is they must make up their minds about what kind of team they want to be. If they hire Alonso and partner him with Massa, they may well again end up in a situation where Alonso is paid zillions of dollars and is sometimes beaten by the underrated second driver, Felipe. Maybe the problem is that Massa is too good to be the second driver. Why not back him then? They don't seem to want to do that either. This talk about getting rid of Kimi is IMO all about not believing in Massa's skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Why is Massa still looked upon as 'the second driver'?
I think he has done more than enough now to show he is up there with Kimi.
He strikes me more of a team player, takes more interest in the technical side and spends time understanding the technicalities of the team.
He has clearly learned a lot from Michael.
I personally hope he returns to F1 even faster and more determined.
Exactly. All the critisism Kimi has got is basically about not beating Massa by a great margin, that's the bottom line. Massa did quite well against Michael in his first year considering that he was new in the team. Maybe Massa is up there with the best. He's 15 seconds away from that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I really cannot see why they would consider changing Kimi or Massa. They are both doing the job OK and I cannot see Alonso accepting joint status.
First we need to see Massa back and up to full speed.
If it aint broke, don't fix it.
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Originally Posted by SGWilko
Massa drove like a demented tit in his Sauber years, but has quietly and quickly matured into one of the best drivers out there. He was absolutely peerless in the changing conditions at Brazil 2008, and the dignity with which he won the race but lost the championship marked him out as a true sportsman in every sense of the word.
In any other team he'd be the number one by a country mile, but by partnering him with Kimi and possibly Alonso in the future, Ferrari are diluting their championship efforts between two drivers when their own history shows that the better course is to favour just one.
Not a chance. He's phenomenal, but the cracks appear when his team mate starts to pressure him. Not a problem at Renault as he's Flavio's golden child: the likes of Trulli and Fisichella were kept in check, while if you believe PIquet Jnr his career was sabatoged. Renault - like Benetton before them - are a one-car team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Partner Alonso with the Hamiltons or Raikkonens of this world, and it's a recipe for disaster.
He talked about that in one of his post accident interview. Apparently he was under huge pressure to perform at Sauber because he had not financial backer and was constantly threatened with losing his seat to drivers who had financial backing. So he thought his only alternative was to drive as fast as possible even though that meant he threw it away often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
IMO his tactics paid off when he managed to be Ferrari's test driver for 2003 and from that moment on with less financial related pressure on him he managed to improve his driving.
This all doesn't mean he wasn't erratic in his first years, it's just meant to explain why he didn't got the slow but sure route.