As long as there's a doubt about his fitness to race NASCAR will test him every time he presents himself to race and they should.
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As long as there's a doubt about his fitness to race NASCAR will test him every time he presents himself to race and they should.
Mayfield had his day in court. I hope it was a "false positive".
Funny, the judge didn't say anything about there not being a "banned substance list" or anything about NASCAR not following Federal guidelines.
No he didn't. In fact he told NASCAR they can test Jeremy whenever they want including hair sample testing. There are no false positives with that as I understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Roy
The case isn't over with. Hopefully Nascar will consider what: “likelihood of a false positive in this case is quite substantial" means and settle out of court.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Roy
Here's the latest from Jayski:
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Mayfield not at Daytona as garage opens: Car owners #64-Larry Gunselman and #36-Tommy Baldwin say they will not put Jeremy Mayfield in their cars this weekend at Daytona International Speedway. Gunselman says his sponsor, Fred's, does not want Mayfield in the car. Baldwin says Mayfield has too much baggage to drive his car. Mayfield's indefinite suspension for a failed drug test was lifted by a federal judge on Wednesday, allowing him to race this weekend. His team was not at the track when the garage opened Thursday, which NASCAR initially said was the deadline for the #41 to enter the race. NASCAR now says Mayfield has until 3 p.m. to bring Mayfield Motorsports to the track.(Associated Press)(7-2-2009)
I don't think anyone disputes NASCAR's right to do test Mayfield. And you're right, they should test everyone, if not prior to every race, at least on a regular schedule like the other sports do. But they still need to come up with a list so everyone is on the same page as to what is allowed and what isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky1329
From what I understand all race team personnel are subject to random testing. The drivers are required to report all their prescription medications to NASCAR all the time and prior to any testing. (Jeremy violated that requirement, by the way.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaparral66
From what NASCAR has stated every driver has access to Dr Black at Aegis to ask about specific banned substances. Mark Martin seemed to be satisfied that he got the answer he wanted about this "list" following the big meeting of a few weeks ago. For what reason does the public need to have a list?
It's funny that Mayfield's high-powered Lawyer doesn't mention the absence of this "list". If it were an issue, you think that he would. Apparently it's not an issue in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky1329
Oh, if only it was that simple. What you stated in one sentence ISN'T in Nascar's 4 1/2 page Substance Abuse Policy! Instead we get:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky1329
4.E (4 is "Collection and Transport of specimen(s)". Which following standard outline format would seem to apply only when a specimin is requested)
"E. Provide a form to be completed by the competitor or official in question that identifies all prescription and over-the-counter medications consumed by the competitor or official in the preceding three months." Aegis even has order system on their web site for pads of these forms, but Nascar/Aegis's "Collector" didn't follow this procedure. He gave Mayfield a card with Dr Black's phone number(s) on it and he had to play telephone tag for two days. It's easy to see that someone might forget a medication in under those conditions.
Can you remember everything you've taken in the last 3 months? Since there's no list to check, that's every pain killer, every vitamin, every antacid, everything!
Jonesi...quit making excuses. Olympic athletes have this on them all the time and most of them manage without any issue. It is the price of participating. No one else in NASCAR is having this trouble on the driver side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonesi
I am sick and tired for people looking for some way that rescue's Jeremy and makes NASCAR the loser on this. This horse manure keeps being spread, and now with the Judge figuring until the full hearing is held in court, Jeremy's is being hurt worse than NASCAR and therefore should be allowed to race; it seems people think he will win.
He wont win. You guys keep forgetting the salient points. First off, He took Adderol and Claritin and didn't tell the drug testers he was taking any drugs for anything. You think he would forget to tell them about the Adderol knowing what he was peeing in the cup for? If that's the case, he is too dumb to drive. No....he was hoping to cruise through and baffle the world. Or he is taking the Adderol to hide a meth addiction. I don't want to believe he is a meth addict, but Adderol has been used in the past to hide meth addictions on drug tests. The suspicions are up. The fact is he didn't disclose the Adderol or the Clartin on the drug test interview ( you are asked what you are taking for what reason and whether it it is prescribed or not). He willfully LIED about that.
Now his lawyer isn't disputing THAT, but they are trying to get him off on the testing procedure? This is what the PED drug users do when trying to drag WADA into court trying to get back into track or the Olympics. Muddy the water enough, BS the judge and get an overrule.
Jeremy took something he shouldn't. There is no list but it is inconsequential. There is no way in HELL NASCAR is going to put together a drug program with a well respected lab and not have their legal side together. I have been to court and I understand nothing is 100% certain, but I know that in this case, if Jeremy finds away to get around THIS positive test, he will be tested so often that he will be never alone in the bathroom again. This aint over, and NASCAR hasn't lost, except one injunction by a judge who obviously isn't afraid of going into a corner with Jeremy Mayfield on drugs. The problem is, Jeff Gordon and the like HAVE to if Jeremy chooses to grace us with his prescence at the races.
This whole thing is sad, and I hope Jeremy gets help and wasn't on Meth, but I am not going to sit here and bash NASCAR for the lack of a "list" ( the drug lab has one obviously) when the guy they nailed LIED to the testers ( a no-no I know about as someone who has to go for random drug tests). Jeremy's personal conduct in other matters and his behaviour after his positive test in showing up at the track (against NASCAR's rules again) says to me this guy thinks he is above the rules. It's NASCAR's Sandbox, and they will decide who plays in it. You guys just watch.....