Mosley 'knows' who set him up

Round and round we go… Are we trying to decide on something that’s already been decided on? This thread seems more focused on what Max did, and not what Max might do. From what I read, Max claimed to be 98% sure who was responsible but wanted to wait till he was certain before coming forward, are the Max bashers trying to bring question to his credibility by bringing up the Nazi themed orgies again, because from my perspective your just chasing your tails, and shooting yourselves in the foot in the process…

Whoever was responsible for bringing this story to light, delivering the “tape” to NotW was surely out to embarrass Mosley, damage his reputation, and perhaps drive him out of the sport. intent follows the bullet And so while I may argue the damage to Mosley might not be as severe as some might believe, there has been damage, and not just to Max, to some extent FIA, and all the sports they govern. So to all those who asked or demanded Mosley step down from the FIA? What should happen to those who got the ball rolling?

Oh and just something to throw out there. Tazio mentioned a connection between Peter Windsor and perhaps Speedtv backing for the new USF1 team… Well if there is any truth to that, lets continue that idea, Speedtv is owned by FOX… FOX is owned by who again???

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Originally Posted by PSfan

Round and round we go… Are we trying to decide on something that’s already been decided on? This thread seems more focused on what Max did, and not what Max might do. From what I read, Max claimed to be 98% sure who was responsible but wanted to wait till he was certain before coming forward, are the Max bashers trying to bring question to his credibility by bringing up the Nazi themed orgies again, because from my perspective your just chasing your tails, and shooting yourselves in the foot in the process…

Whoever was responsible for bringing this story to light, delivering the “tape” to NotW was surely out to embarrass Mosley, damage his reputation, and perhaps drive him out of the sport. intent follows the bullet And so while I may argue the damage to Mosley might not be as severe as some might believe, there has been damage, and not just to Max, to some extent FIA, and all the sports they govern. So to all those who asked or demanded Mosley step down from the FIA? What should happen to those who got the ball rolling?

Oh and just something to throw out there. Tazio mentioned a connection between Peter Windsor and perhaps Speedtv backing for the new USF1 team… Well if there is any truth to that, lets continue that idea, Speedtv is owned by FOX… FOX is owned by who again???

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Thank You PS. Someone is starting to connect the dots!

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

So , I'm going to assume that those who are aghast at Max's behavior , would be OK with this , had he been pictured in a bunny suit ?
Or , would that be a PETA issue ?

What if he was playing cowboys and Indians ?
Or , if he was dressed as a vampire ? Should either Hungarians or the blood banks get involved in this ?

Any of the above might have been his preference at other times , so I guess they would be OK then ?


Any of you who are thinking Max should go because of this should remember he took precautions to keep his private life private .
Let's remember our own personal space , and how a violation of this to this degree would affect us .

How would Markabilly feel if his bedroom was on Youtube without his consent ?
While he might not be wearing his Colonel Klink outfit , would he , or you , feel he should look into finding out who set up the camera ?
And , if he was to find out it was a local contractor , should he ask who paid for the work ?

If Markabilly was the front desk receptionist at the White House , could they legally fire him for the bunny suit ?

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The orgy/S&M in itself is not an issue. The issue resides within the legality of his activities (i.e. was it prostitution, and if so, was said prostitution illegal). If that basic question holds true the guy needs to remove himself from office. If not, than all the fncking power to this pervert.

However I do question someones moral/ethical abilities and value when they clearly have no regard for basic civilized tennants.

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Originally Posted by PSfan

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Oh and just something to throw out there. Tazio mentioned a connection between Peter Windsor and perhaps Speedtv backing for the new USF1 team… Well if there is any truth to that, lets continue that idea, Speedtv is owned by FOX… FOX is owned by who again???

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PSfan all good points. However I couldn't be more at odds with your last point. Rupert Murdoch is not the head of a governing body , so the comparison is mute.

Now if the comparison was with an Eliot Spitzer, or Larry Craig, or any other sexual deviant in a governing position I would ask for the same. "Remove yourself from that governing position to protect the interests of the greater good". There is no question that Max's indiscretions have harmed the face of the governing body of international motor sports, and perhaps F1 itself. It doesn't matter that he had no intention of the public finding out. He is solely responsible for compromising the office he holds by engaging in his past times. Just happens that some other "jerk" called him out. Max should step down, and if he doesn't it the responsibility of those involved to demand it.

j,

I appreciate that you are very passionate about this subject!

However, we beat (or whipped if you prefer :p :)

the puss out of that dead horse last summer! :dozey:

He won a vote of confidence in June last year! alot of people wern't happy. blah, blah, blah,!!!!!

Not only is he staying, he may run for another term when this one runs out!

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

So , I'm going to assume that those who are aghast at Max's behavior , would be OK with this , had he been pictured in a bunny suit ?

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Depends if folk wearing bunny suits had been resposible for something attrocious in the past, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Or , would that be a PETA issue ?

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If it was made of real bunny fur, then I assume yes, it probably would....

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

What if he was playing cowboys and Indians ?
Or , if he was dressed as a vampire ? Should either Hungarians or the blood banks get involved in this ?

Any of the above might have been his preference at other times , so I guess they would be OK then ?

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People who let their heads be ruled by their John Thomas and associated sexual urges tend to have a habit of making rash decisions as a result IMO.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Any of you who are thinking Max should go because of this should remember he took precautions to keep his private life private .
Let's remember our own personal space , and how a violation of this to this degree would affect us .

How would Markabilly feel if his bedroom was on Youtube without his consent ?
While he might not be wearing his Colonel Klink outfit , would he , or you , feel he should look into finding out who set up the camera ?
And , if he was to find out it was a local contractor , should he ask who paid for the work ?

If Markabilly was the front desk receptionist at the White House , could they legally fire him for the bunny suit ?

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I was not aware Max was taking part in S&M in his bedroom when he was caught. And for all I know, Markabilly might well be that lad with the pretend lightsabre on You Tube...........

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Originally Posted by PSfan

Round and round we go… Are we trying to decide on something that’s already been decided on? This thread seems more focused on what Max did, and not what Max might do. From what I read, Max claimed to be 98% sure who was responsible but wanted to wait till he was certain before coming forward, are the Max bashers trying to bring question to his credibility by bringing up the Nazi themed orgies again, because from my perspective your just chasing your tails, and shooting yourselves in the foot in the process…

Whoever was responsible for bringing this story to light, delivering the “tape” to NotW was surely out to embarrass Mosley, damage his reputation, and perhaps drive him out of the sport. intent follows the bullet And so while I may argue the damage to Mosley might not be as severe as some might believe, there has been damage, and not just to Max, to some extent FIA, and all the sports they govern. So to all those who asked or demanded Mosley step down from the FIA? What should happen to those who got the ball rolling?

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Totally agree. I wasn't trying to pontificate some moral arguement about his personal sexual preferences but just stating facts. Personally, I find his activity rather distastfull but as long as it's behind closed doors, I don't give a monkeys. I have always been against Max for his professional conduct within the FIA and not what gets his rocks off.

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Oh and just something to throw out there. Tazio mentioned a connection between Peter Windsor and perhaps Speedtv backing for the new USF1 team… Well if there is any truth to that, lets continue that idea, Speedtv is owned by FOX… FOX is owned by who again???

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A theory but no real evidence or motive. You could use arguements like this to implicate Ron, JYS and 90% of the paddock!

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Depends if folk wearing bunny suits had been resposible for something attrocious in the past, doesn't it?
If it was made of real bunny fur, then I assume yes, it probably would....

People who let their heads be ruled by their John Thomas and associated sexual urges tend to have a habit of making rash decisions as a result IMO.


I was not aware Max was taking part in S&M in his bedroom when he was caught. And for all I know, Markabilly might well be that lad with the pretend lightsabre on You Tube...........

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I might agree , if the bunny-suited people had been tire slashers . Then , Max might be interpretted as saying he would join the bunny-suited corps , and cause a serious safety issue .

I have no problems with the idea of Max being impeached for his rash decisions , but not for the reasoning that "John Thomas" makes him do it .

You glossed over my questions in the last paragraph , conveniently .
Would you care to answer them ?


I know folks who brag about going to the peeler club , and I know people who would blush at the thought , and heap disdain on those inside .
But , you see , that's why it's inside , where those with different values don't have to watch .

Personally , I think beating someone with a whip is creepy as hell , but I know Max was doing a lot to keep me from seeing this activity . He kept it from you , me , and his family for 40 years .
Someone else was responsible for showing you , not Max .
You should be angry with them .



Knowing he has these tendencies does explain one thing for me ; how he can stand the high pressure "whippings" he gets in the press after those "rash decisions" .
I used to thnk that he throws in a goofy suggestion or two , just so he can pass a reasonable one , but I now think that maybe some of the hassle he gets is requested because it's a hassle .
But , either way , it's usually the least goofy of his ideas that gets adopted .

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Totally agree. I wasn't trying to pontificate some moral arguement about his personal sexual preferences but just stating facts. Personally, I find his activity rather distastfull but as long as it's behind closed doors, I don't give a monkeys. I have always been against Max for his professional conduct within the FIA and not what gets his rocks off.



A theory but no real evidence or motive. You could use arguements like this to implicate Ron, JYS and 90% of the paddock!

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

How does absolute power corrupt ?

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I don't know. I don't have it.