Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2012

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Originally Posted by 6789

Not the way Mads would have wanted to win his first wrc rally

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a win is a win...right now it is a "fake" one with no value at all..... but in 10-20 years it will be his first win without and buts or ifs (lets hope he improves and its the first among many)

Ford's review. Imagine Quinn will have a few questions to answer from his bosses on Monday morning............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA1OlkBYemE

i think that "joker" clutch is not meant to be there, somehow they forget to remove the unhomoligated but an improved part there. that might gain advantage, we don't know that. citroen is taking chances by appeal. i don't think the decision will change.

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Originally Posted by 6789

To me, If the parts arent homologated then there's not really a lot to appeal against, irrespective of performance gain.

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Absolutely agree. The part's either legal or it's not. Added reliability is a performance again. The appeal is probably more about saving face by not admitting guilt than it is an attempt to overturn the decision.

So I guess it's a privateer who has won this rally? :D

WRC.com article - World Rally Championship - News - Citroen heads comment on Hirvonen exclusion

Seems they are appealing on the basis that they didn't gain an advantage and that the penalties were out of proportion because of that

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Originally Posted by 6789

WRC.com article - World Rally Championship - News - Citroen heads comment on Hirvonen exclusion

Seems they are appealing on the basis that they didn't gain an advantage and that the penalties were out of proportion because of that

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I do not see any other penalty than exclusion for using non-homologated part. The only thing they can achieve is added phrase to the decision: "However, the non-homologated part didn't give any performance advantage." Using non-homologated part must be always punished with exclusion, no matter is it privateer or factory.

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Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

Interesting to say the least. But it fcked up my sleep cycle. Thanks Citroen. :D

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Haha. Every European event #(*k's up my sleep cycle. You'll do fine. :p

Crazy, crazy weekend. Not sure how i feel....my emotions are confusing me.

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Originally Posted by bluuford

I do not see any other penalty than exclusion for using non-homologated part.

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Australia 2009. There Citroen got only one minute penalty for using non-homologated part.

from memory, that part was homologated but the new drawings not present in the documents they produced in Australia.