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Originally Posted by dimviii
Correct, I would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Render of a Bates' Australian Yaris GR AP4. The graphics are probably from Iain Chandler.
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/thi...-in-australia/
It looks better than Yaris Rally 1.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/toyot...t-rally-japan/
"Toyota will be at pains to point out that this is a very early development car, with the firm’s very first Rally2 car not available to customers until 2024."
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru, maybe they plan to rebadge the Yaris Rally2 to a Subaru rally2?
I'm not 100% sure on this, but 1 guy claimed prodrive already has 25 subaru chassis in house to build "something", a rally2 car has some economic sense atleast.
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Could be interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
About 25 chassis,maybe the dakar Hunter T1?
Prodrive chassis of what?
Mazda Rally2 looks possible.
Way more possible than Subaru...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Mazda2 hybrid is re-badged Yaris hybrid, 99% same car.
But not the same as the GR YarisQuote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
And who says Toyota is presenting a GR Yaris? I just read that they have a Yaris Rally2 car to present... could be the normal version to be different from the Rally1 carQuote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Most successful Rally2 cars are 5-doors...
(Citroen, Hyundai, Skoda and VW)
Oh god I hope notQuote:
Originally Posted by TheFlyingTuga
P25 comes to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Yes, absolute. But isn't those already built?Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
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Probably not. Some maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Already on ss1 some problems/crash for Mikkelsen, almost 30 cars finished with stage 1 without time for Mikkelse.
now there is a time for Mikkelsen....german timing system is very poor...
Times in now, some glitch I guess.
+4,1 on SS1
- 7,8 on SS2
So leads 3,7 on Grøndal after 2.
2nd on SS1
1st on SS2
2nd on SS3
1st on SS4
Leads by 13 seconds after SS4. I see no problems for Mikkelsen so far ;)
Hard to judge really. With Mikkelsen driving you'd expect such a lead in any Rally2 car
Yes, if you start to check the times on 10:00 CET - but if you was looking at 7:30 CET and first 30 cars finished the stage without time for Mikkelsen, you can clearly ask what happened to him - especially when also on SS2 first cars arrived to finish and again no time for Mikkelsen - later they add times for him for both SS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Anyway, I expected higher lead after 4 SS :)
They have found (and added) his times only when he has arrived to regrouping after SS 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcevc
26 seconds after SS6. Is it good enough? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jcevc
Not yet :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
He just lost 4.6s to Tom Kristensson.
I think he is driving the car home in first place at the moment, and not pushing to set fastest stage times. What a better start it would be for new Skoda? First official rally for car = first win. Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
True. This is the problem with running on a low profile event such as this. It's bigger news if he doesn't win than he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
As Lead says he's probably just driving within himself at the moment to get the result. Conditions are tricky and he doesn't know the car as well as the old one.
What can we conclude from the first start:
- Skoda/Toksport use a lighter green color
- the car is not significantly slower than the old one
- it can drive a rally without major technical issues (looking at both Hyundai and Polo first start)
That's about it.
Yep. Now i suppose we have to wait another couple of months for a proper debut.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
At least Mikkelsen and Toksport gained some experience of running the car on a real event.
Great stage times and overall rally from Kristensson.
Some good footage from Lausitz here:
https://youtu.be/uh6qPPlwdFk
A win but nothing more and that was probably all they wanted.
Skoda has plenty of orders already according to Dirtfish.
But there is black shadow on this win. Mikkelsen should be excluded for early arrival to TC 10B. And 200 euro cash penalty for not following the roadbook (missed refuel zone and tyre marking zone) is also a joke...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Since when are competitors excluded for arriving early at TC? Normally that's a penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
19 mins early...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
So why should that be exclusion and not 19 min penalty?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
In the itenary TC10B has "early check-in" (allowed) both in German and English.
Why should he be excluded again?