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10th October 2011, 07:57
RobertS

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Originally Posted by januszsz

and Maciej Stawowiak/Jan Czyżyk (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600 as well as Janusz Książkiewicz/Józef Ważny (PL) Polski Fiat 125p and Ryszard Nowicki/Wojciech Schramm (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600?
Regards
Janusz

Hi Januszsz,

One thing is sure, on '75 Zlatni - Andrew Cowan run with Polski-Fiat 125p MC1600 start no.14, reg.plate 38-41-WX >

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4271/60682755gin.jpg

I started to scan my old slides from Bulgaria 1975.
Can you help me? Who is he on this pic.? >

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4034/4748.jpg

Maybe the 'young' Andrew Cowan ? >

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4034/4748.jpg

And please write, if you have any details of Cowan's contract with Polski-Fiat in 1975!
Any other rallyes for Andrew Cowan with Polski-Fiat?

Start no.26 was 14-53-WX.
10th October 2011, 08:18
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav197

For Rallye Zlatni Piassatzi 1975 -55. Kent Janson SWE -Ake Daliov SWE - Saab V4

Are you sure with the codriver's name?
I can not find him in any other sources...
10th October 2011, 08:51
stanislav197

Americo, help me for result ERC-1974 :2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th ;San Marino - 6-10 th ;7/Tulpen - 9 th ;9/Sant Rafael - 2 th ;12/Jamt - 8-9 th ;13/Antibes - 8-10 th ;18/Danube - 7,9,10 th ;22/Tour de France - 8-10 th ;23/Lugano - 7-10 th ;24/OASC - 7-10 th ;25/RACE - 8-10 th ;26/Sant Aman - 1,5,6,7,9 th ;;ERC - 1975 :1/Polar Bergslags - 6-10 th ;2/Galway - 6,7,9,10 th ;4/Costa Brava - 8-10th ;6/Lion-Charbonie -8 th ;7/De la Giralia - 3,4,7,9,10 th ;8/Firestone - 7,9 th ;9/Circuit of Irland -7,9 th ;10/Turaine 2,3,8,9 th ;11/Isola d'Elba - 7 th ;14/Lucien Bianchi - 9 th ;15/Yu - 8 th ;18/Alpin - 6,7,9,10 th ;22/Antibes - 5 th ;23/Ypres - 8,10 th ;30/RACE - 6,8 th . Thanks.
10th October 2011, 08:57
stanislav197

ERC Rally Ypres - 1974 - Real names -7.«Andy»-???????? (BEL) navigator of Moortgat and 9.«Louvray»-????????? (BEL)
10th October 2011, 13:20
Martin Liddle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Boyd

Yes it's Bob Bean again. I think he may now have retired (I haven't seen him on an event this year)

Time for new glasses Steve? Trackrod Historic Cup 2011 Final Overall Positions after stage 6 - Langdale 1

ps Thanks for your help on Saturday.
10th October 2011, 16:06
sednem

Thanks Janusz...

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

Hi Americo

Do you have numbers and final times of all top 10 from Ypres'74?
By the way you have "Moortgat"/"Andy" later (next years) they appeared as Rudolf Moortgat/"Andy".

Do you have numbers of top 10 RACE'75? Do you have 8th position of that rally as well as first names of 6th Trabado/Serrano?

Regards
Janusz

Here's what I have for Ypres 74
1. #2 Gilbert Staepelaere (BEL)/«Jimmy» (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - 59:19.8
2. #4 «Pedro» (ESP)/Eric Symens (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H00:35.4
3. #7 Serge Laurent (FRA)/Philippe Hammelrath (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H01:07.7
4. #3 Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Christian Delferrier (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H01:48.5
5. #9 Maurice Nusbaumer (FRA)/Luc Pyncket (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H01:58.9
6. #11 Jean-Paul Rieu (FRA)/Antoon Daemers (BEL) - Porsche Carrera - 1H03:25.9
7. #19 «Moortgat» (BEL)/«Andy» (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - 1H05:53.1
8. #5 Walter Röhrl (DEU)/Lars Carlsson (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 1H07:31.1
9. #25 «Louvray» (BEL)/Guy Hendrickx (BEL) - BMW 2002 Tii - 1H09:04.3
10. #15 Willy Plas (BEL)/Paul Maes (BEL) - Renault 12 Gordini - 1H09:44.2

Regardin "Moortgat" and all the others that used nick-names, that's an issue with my DB :o nly one "name shown"... must fix this but there is so many other things to do...

and RACE'75

1. #2 Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Eduardo Martinez Adam (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H17:22
2. #5 Claude Haldi (CHE)/Bernard Sandoz (CHE) - Porsche Carrera RS - 3H21:28
3. #10 Lucas Sáinz (ESP)/José Antonio Zorrilla (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 3H24:52
4. #6 Salvador Cañellas (ESP)/Daniel Ferrater (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H26:09
5. #20 Marc Etchebers (FRA)/Marie-Christine Etchebers (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii - 3H30:54
6. #11 Carlos Trabado (ESP)/Juan-Luis Serrano (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H33:54
7. #26 Genito Ortíz (ESP)/Maria Jesús Cabal (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 3H35:14
8. #37 F. Dameto (ESP)/E.García Gascó (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H41:31
9. #23 Claudio Caba (ESP)/Miguel Galofré (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV - 3H45:06
10. #38 Werner Schweizer (DEU)/Bernd Ostmann (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S - 3H46:00

Best regards
Américo
10th October 2011, 16:47
sednem

Here they are...

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

Americo,

Firestone'72
4th-10th
4. #??? José Pavón (ESP)/Ricardo Antolín (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
5. #??? Marc Etchebers (FRA)/Marie-Christine Etchebers (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
6. #??? Roger van der Schrick (BEL)/Christian Delferrier (BEL) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #5 Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Manuel González (ESP) - Alpine-Porsche A110 -
8. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Pancho» (ESP)/??? Sánchez (ESP) - Ford Capri 2600 -
10. #??? Eugénio Baturone (ESP)/Daniel Ferrater (ESP) - AlpineSeat Proto -

Firestone'74
7th-10th
7. #??? Julio Gargallo (ESP)/Ignacio Lewin (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
8. #??? Juan Carlos Oñoro (ESP)/Juan Petisco (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #??? Paul Olsen (DNK)/Karsten Richardt (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -
10. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/"Ynad" (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

as well as number of starters/finishers of Firestone 1972-1976 and the base city for Firestone 1972, 1973, 1976 and 1979.
1972: (Bilbao) Ent=91, Start=65 Finish=45
1973: (Bilbao) Ent=96, Start=71 Finish=27
1974: (Bilbao) Ent=101, Start=81 Finish=26
1975: (Santander) Ent=??, Start=72 Finish=27
1976: (Bilbao) Ent=80, Start=61 Finish=23

Regards
Janusz

Best regards
Américo
10th October 2011, 16:56
sednem

Quote:

Originally Posted by januszsz

Thank you for the info on Firestone. I'll check the site.
I have Tour de France as a round of ERC'74. But top 3 cars were group 5 prototypes, so if it was an ERC round the ERC winner was Jacques Henry (4th overall). It is one of many questions on the past rallies.
Regards
Janusz

Hi,

according to Autocourse 1974 TDF was not listed within ERC/WRC results... (take a look into Autocourse - 1974 digital edition=)

In the middle 70's, races accepting group 5 (prototypes) car was retired from Champship (Same problem occured with some UK races at that time...)

Best regards
Américo.
10th October 2011, 17:09
sednem

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav197

Americo, help me for

ERC-1974 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #??? Ernesto Borau (ESP)/J. Villa (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18043 pts
9. #??? Joan Tarrés (ESP)/P. Vinyes (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18114 pts
10. #??? José Marco (ESP)/J. Wenceslao (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii - 18186 pts
San Marino - 6-10 th (Missing too)
6. #??? Bruno Ferraris (ITA)/Daniele Cianci (ITA) - Lancia Fulvia 1.6 Coupé HF - 6H40:52

7/Tulpen - 9 th
9. #30 Peter van ‘t Hof (NLD)/Jaap Korpershoek (NLD) - DAF 66 -
9/Sant Rafael - 2 th
2. #??? Anny-Charlotte Verney (FRA)/??? Legou (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS - 2H48:36
12/Jamt - 8-9 th
8. #??? Ingemar Frohm (SWE)/A. Skarstrom (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
9. #??? Karl-Gunnar Hillberg (SWE)/R.O. Pålsson (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
13/Antibes - 8-10 th
8. #14 Alain Lion (FRA)/Christian Beffara (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
9. #133 Pierre Carestia (FRA)/R. Prelatti (FRA) - Opel 1900 -
10. #23 Georges Chiodi (FRA)/«Lulu» (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
18/Danube - 7,9,10 th (Missing too)
22/Tour de France - 8-10 th (NOT ERC)
23/Lugano - 7-10 th (Missing too)
24/OASC - 7-10 th (Missing too)
25/RACE - 8-10 th
8. #26 José Buixeda (ESP)/F. Dreyer (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #34 Jesus Manso (ESP)/E. Prieto (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
10. #33 «Niki» (ESP)/T. Diaz (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 -
26/Sant Aman - 1,5,6,7,9 th
1. #??? Maurice Nusbaumer (FRA)/P. Prat (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 2H49:43.0
5. #??? Roger Boulinguez (FRA)/Christian Gilbert (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 2H55:44.3
6. #??? Francis Leclercq (FRA)/Jean-Claude Leclercq (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 2H56:41.0
7. #??? «Archy» (FRA)/Philippe Ravaze (FRA) - Opel Commodore GS/E - 2H57:11.2
9. #??? Pierre Bos (FRA)/R. Stahl (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii - 2H58:49.1
ERC - 1975:
1/Polar Bergslags - 6-10 th (missing 9&10)
7. #??? ??? Wallin (SWE)/??? Eriksson (SWE) - Ford Escort RS -
8. #??? Leif Andersson (SWE)/??? Kingsmo (SWE) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
2/Galway - 6,7,9,10 th
6. #??? Philip McCartan (GBR)/A. Rice (GBR) - Ford Escort BDA -
7. #??? Joe Pat O'Kane (GBR)/Roy Sloan (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
9. #??? Ronnie McCartney (IRL)/L. Weir (IRL) - Mazda RX3 -
10. #??? R. Murphy (GBR)/G. Brittain (GBR) - Vauxhall Magnum -
4/Costa Brava - 8-10th
8. #23 Jacques Régis (FRA)/Chantal Argellies (FRA) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 17346.5
9. #87 José María Jordá (ESP)/J.E. Monforte (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18088.7
10. #81 Javier Olcina (ESP)/Maria Sargatal (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18342.8
6/Lion-CharbonieRES -8 th
8. #??? Alexandre Talenti (FRA)/Claude Carret (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
7/De la Giralia - 3,4,7,9,10 th
3. #??? Jean-Marie Soriano (FRA)/??? Alberolla (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
4. #??? Daniel Rognoni (FRA)/A. Moretti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
7. #??? Guy Fréquelin (FRA)/??? Marchioni (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
9. #??? Ange Marie Venturini (FRA)/??? Simonini (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
10. #??? ??? Lecaille (FRA)/??? Maissa (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8/Firestone - 7,9 th
7. #??? Jaime Castellanos (ESP)/José María Abans (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? ??? Gomez (ESP)/??? Toca (ESP) - Porsche Carrera -
9/Circuit of Irland -7,9 th
7. #??? Brendan Fagan (IRL)/Andy Johnston (IRL) - Ford Escort BDA -
9. #??? Charlie Gunn (IRL)/H. McEvoy (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
10/Turaine 2,3,8,9 th
2. #??? Jean-Louis Philippe (FRA)/J.P. Royot (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
3. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
8. #??? Jean-Claude Lefèbvre (FRA)/Jean-Philippe Grand (FRA) - Opel Commodore GS/E -
9. #??? Pierre Desilles (FRA)/C. Desilles (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
11/Isola d'Elba - 7 th
7. #36 Massimo Cambiaghi (ITA)/Jean-Marie Combe (FRA) - Porsche Carrera -
14/Lucien Bianchi - 9 th
9. #22 Jean Claude Mounal (FRA)/Lionel L'Homme (FRA) - Ford Capri RS -
15/Yu - 8 th
8. #??? Václav Blahna (CZE)/Iván Balik (CSK) - Skoda 120-S Rally -
18/Alpin - 6,7,9,10 th
6. #??? Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/A. Argenti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
7. #??? Bernard Pellegrin (FRA)/G. Saioni (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
9. #??? Richard Kuss (FRA)/J. Mancini (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
10. #??? Lucien Ciais (FRA)/J-P. Avalle (FRA) - Renault 12 Gordini -
22/Antibes - 5 th
5. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/"Ynad" (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
23/Ypres - 8,10 th
8. #??? Ricardo Muñoz (ESP)/Ronny Deruyter (BEL) - Seat 1430/1800 -
10. #??? Roger Engels (BEL)/Picry (BEL) - Porsche Carrera -
30/RACE - 6,8 th
6. #11 Carlos Trabado (ESP)/Juan-Luis Serrano (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H33:54
8. #37 F. Dameto (ESP)/E.García Gascó (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H41:31

Thanks.

Best Regards
Américo
10th October 2011, 17:11
sednem

I Have

«Moortgat» : Rudolf Moortgat
«Andy» : André Schelstraete
«Louvray» : ???????? ???????

Best regards.
Américo

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