Sordo and Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVp...ature=youtu.be
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Sordo and Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVp...ature=youtu.be
2:36. The way the Hyundai transitions from a handbrake-induced slide to forward motion looks pretty impressive to my untrained eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
And here it is, the new road-going Yaris, based on the existing Yaris.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-new...armer-in-2017/
Nice to see a a 'hot' Yaris for the road, tying the WRC campaign together.
Paddon
https://youtu.be/rntaY8xLs1Q
Nice to see the effort but who sane would buy this thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
Black rims lovers? Apparently they're a growing group...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Seems that way!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
If they made it 4wd and more power, i would like one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
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still no vids of Tänak?
Why would they not?! Hot hatches are hot in the market right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Not really, hot hatches are kind of promotion for a car model but they are rarely profitable. Anyway the others at least look good. This car looks like a something from a village tuning party.
Rarely profitable or not, there is a wait list of 5 plus months for a Focus RS and several weeks for a 308 GTI. Sorry of the OT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So is for plenty of totally uniform cars. You have to see that the numbers of sold hot hatches are very small while the expenses for their existence are rather high. It's the common models which make money while the hot hatches make the promotion.
:-)
I am driving Focus ST 2008 version and its pretty perfect.Nice and fast.Pretty fun to drive.
But Mirek is right
same who bought the thing below...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...t_20100515.jpg
Paddon
https://youtu.be/v130W4WOQj8
What a monster rear wing. That Yaris a least looks like the most complex aero wise car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C19xzQlXEAA-Wkh.jpg
Yaris hot-hatch looked better in a sketch than in reality..
http://images.car.bauercdn.com/pagef...ris-sketch.jpg
Saw it in some videos. Words can not describe how ugly it is...Quote:
Originally Posted by maciotacio
Paddon
https://youtu.be/TtN9EIi_HVA
one more of Paddon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2UxMWjAgA
2 mins of Sordo from Zagatoi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4qDktRItk
Paddon today
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Cv9i0W8AATgnf.jpg:orig
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2CwCdWXAAYiopf.jpg:orig
I don't work in automotive sphere, but here I feel duty to express engineering pov. Rear wing is meant to generate downforce, stability... it is its purpose. It is not meant to be married or even just desired. So its form is defined by certain phisical characteristics of airflow and not "being atractive". If I find an analogy in nature it is like comparing an owl and a rose... one is aerodinamic the other beautifull in its purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
That's right. But as a marketing tool wrc except the obvious gain being the fastest, there is also pure car attraction side, well probably much less but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_n_z
I am fully aware of this... It is about managing air flow and creating as much leverage on the rear wheels as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_n_z
Still doesn't make it pretty though. I liked the first iteration of their rear wing... This, however, not so much.
... Also owls are majestic creatures. The Toyota is not.
Ogier from michelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9P-...ure=youtu.be&a
Yes it is ugly, but designed to work in conjunction from the front wings back. Since shots of Ogier testing the Yaris, it is evident that the door skins have been widened, and sculpted similar to an 80's testerossa, flat at the top which leads from top of front wing, the aero door mirror arms, along this top edge of door skin and rear quarter panel to the bottom of the rear wing.
The car does seem to look stable at speed on Tarmac straights.
looks promising as ever, looks very fast..doubt he won't take the win in Monte...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
https://youtu.be/6dOmJuECGVM
Ogier test from Zagatoi....
Lot of understeer i think.
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That's good for Monte.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_bakelas
Paddon
https://youtu.be/rWJA8qNOgkQ
Hmm, I think that the few moments where there is understeering are down to icy or very slippery road taken with a considerably higher than safe apex speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_bakelas
Can You explain why do You think so?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
small clip from Evans,nothing special,but the view with the winding snow is magic.
https://youtu.be/wJmlHELwCSM
Tidemand
https://youtu.be/zprOXY3ILBE
Eeh-eh, let me try - because oversteering in very-very slippery conditions is very-very bad. Kind of the enemy of your enemy is my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Probably Lundefaret can make much more educated analysis (and possibly prove me wrong).
Let's take it different way. Both oversteering and understeering are negative behavior. It's not like there are only two options, the good one is neither one of them. Understeering is for sure the safer bad thing as it is easier to predict especially for amateurs and it also secures better way of crashing (by front) but I somehow doubt that the general rule applies also for WRC drivers.
Anyway on ice with short studs or without studs at all I think that every 4x4 car sufferes from some understeering at the apex and oversteering at the exit simply because of very low level of grip (I admit that my only experience with studs on ice is from go-karts but with them the behavior was exactly like that - understeering at the apex becoming oversteering at the exit).
That's weird video.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
recover after Ogier broke rear wheel
https://youtu.be/rLP2q28J9ms