Was Todt better? FIA doesn't care about WRC.
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Was Todt better? FIA doesn't care about WRC.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/a/9bd...2-4e0f667ca8d0
Lappi will drive the next round of Finnish championship in Kuopio with Rally1. Katsuta also entered in the same rally.
Let's cut testing days, it will save so much money..
Well.. didn't go as planned by fia/wrc again.
Good thing the whole Monte was dry, I’m sure it was a good long 3 day test for the team to prepare for Croatia ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
No, that was the FiA Rallies boss.......his deputy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
That was completely predictable. Teams have their budgets and will spend them anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
I wonder why did they decide to participate in the rally? Both Hyundai and Toyota have permanent sites in Finland where you can test anytime. And I think there is enough snow to test? Or why is it so?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
They're all the same; they may mean well, and want to sort out the WRC, but get dragged into F1 - and before you know it's 1-2 years have passed. And there is a reason why they may not care about the WRC; it doesn't bring in much attention, or money.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
However, I get the feeling he wants to take action, but his hands are tied......
I guess for more variety, or more mileage. Either way, both teams are saving test days by using this as a Sweden PET for those drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
More variety, yes. More mileage - doubt. They can test at their permanent site a lot more. Might be that they will also test at their base and then will do a rally to see how did their changes translate into other kind of roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
direct time comparison also for hiunday side. although they can test different things, having an opponent benchmark is a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
The roads on the rally could be a bit more on the super fast side than on the testing areas. But most importantly it gives fresh snow rally experience for these two drivers.
And both of them must score points for the team on Rally Sweden. So they must gain some confidence on snow.
Yes, all that seems logical. And better for us (rally fans)!
It seems to me that this entry is more for the two drivers than for car development.
I don't get why they don't let all their drivers compete there. Having them do more stage kilometers can only give positive results.
it's not free...Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Yeah, F1 is always the priority for FIA. And with the shitstorm going down over there, there isn't probably enough time left to work with WRC at the top level. Albeit, Bin Sulayem and Reid are born and bred rallymen, so it's more than possibly the most ideal situation for WRC. The problem is with the manufacturers, imo. In reality, WRC needs a massive step back with Rally 2s becoming the top category and massive cost caps on cars. But, good luck finding a board to agree on ditching hybrids.
They'll almost certainly be using their teams' test cars - it wouldn't be practical for Hyundai (probably not Toyota either, but more possible for them) to send all their drivers, and have their cars rebuilt in time for Rally Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
The cost of the cars is not an issue for manufacturers.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
The only thing that FIA really need to do is loosen engine/powertrain regulation. Let every manufacturer use whatever type of powertrain they want, just make some limits.
No new brand will ever enter WRC when they need to develop brand new purpose-made engine that cost like half of the car a cannot use it in any other series. Hybrid or not.
i agree with this, open up development and level cars with balance of performance rules. it's worked for WEC and it seems to be attracting different philosophies and technologies in Dakar, an event that maybe a few years ago seemed stuck in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
rallying is the ultimate marketing tool, to prove you can make the best car on all surfaces and on roads that normal people will drive on. if it can be made into a marketing opportunity this way, i think it could work.
I can't see BoP working in the WRC......I get the feeling they want to remain 'pure' without any different technology to cause them problems. If it happens, then good, but it's not likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
As for your final point, I think a lot have been saying that for years; it should/ could be the ultimate proving ground for manufacturers - but it just isn't due to poor management.
Holy Cow...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Wtcc, Rallycross, Autocross, Hillclimb, Trucks... and they didnt cared much about WEC too tbh, but the new rules are making some noise (for racing fans. Its not even like just by having Ferrari and other 3 brands is making WEC more popular among non-WEC fans)Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Yeah, look at WTCC/WTRC and WEC. It both gained popularity thanks to competitors' engagement. TCR started as cheaper alternative for FIA's touring cars and gained more popularity than WTCC. WEC got popularity after LMH and LMDh cars, which was, again, thanks to popularity of IMSA.
Don't forget that there were something similar in rally with IRC. But I'm not sure if there is now potential to create something similiar.
I am afraid there is not correct time to create something similar in rally. Rallysport is based on manufacturer more than other disciplines. And there is big question what will be the future way of automotive, because this is crucial also for rallysport. Currently everything is going "green electric way", despite all of its pluses and minuses. But for rallysport, electric cars are not the best ways for now. But "marketing specialists" at the manufacturers are pushing to support only (mainly) to anything connected to electrics. After FIA decision to move ERC to new promoter, there was a group of people who were intensively working on making a new series. But in the final, it was almost impossible to find investors if you will not use electric car...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Bertelli on the Yaris Rally1
“I expected it to be not so easy like the Ford which is very easy to be driven. This was quite positive because actually the car was very agile and not nervous at all, so it was easy to drive. I got comfortable with it very quickly, so I’m super happy.”
He hopes to do some more events in it this year.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/b...eden/10426256/
https://www.threelines.uk/stakeholde...sion-deadline/
So maybe we'll see after all the WRC back in the UK for 2024, in NI (like in the attempts of last year & 2021).
NI will just be Ireland by then. :) Still, it's more likely than a US event.
I was under the impression the US event is second best after Saudi Arabia when it came to (immediate) future slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
That's a very brave/foolhardy statement . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Not more than statement that UK will be back in WRC in 2024Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
As was Brexit, which is why I'd make a guess like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
I've been hearing about a US round for years and I didn't hear anything new in the article. Ford does a booming business selling trucks; other than the Mustang Ford doesn't sell cars in the US/Canada. Or the Puma. If Ford spends wants to sponsor a US event it's because of a personal connection with Dirtfish or some Ford executives' monomania with rallying.
Now that Ford officially will join F1 from 2026, will they abandon their WRC M-Sport project?
Let´s hope not.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
They can afford both.
“I’ve been assured today’s news will have no impact on our World Rally Championship program,” Wilson said.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-spo...t-wrc-program/
outsourcing everything to a company that only cares about profit is not a project...Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21