RACC Rally Catalunya 2018

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27th October 2018, 08:21
KKS

Tanak spilt ^_^
27th October 2018, 08:21
er88

C3 very nervous; well there's a shock.

NOT
27th October 2018, 08:22
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by mknight

Kopecky was loosing 1 min over friday vs Mikkelsen in same car last year. (Monte + Corsica).

Yeah, and then again Mikkelsen was second in Germany last year on Citroen. Some drivers and cars just don't match.
27th October 2018, 08:23
krissucool

Has anyone ever seen such a mismatch? Markko Märtin and Peugeot was pretty bad but this is crazy.
27th October 2018, 08:24
dimviii

SAT 09:48 - SS9: LOEB
It's been a while since the nine-time champ last raced a rally car on wet asphalt and his time reflects that somewhat. It's by no means a bad time at all, he's just 9.2sec down and he'll definitely be getting quicker as the day goes on. "It is very difficult, very complicated. The car is very nervous on this tyre, it isn't quite adapted to these conditions."
27th October 2018, 08:24
AnttiL

Could it actually be that the SS8 cancelling played in Toyota's bag? If the full wets wear more quickly, they're better off with a shorter loop?
27th October 2018, 08:24
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by krissucool

Has anyone ever seen such a mismatch? Markko Märtin and Peugeot was pretty bad but this is crazy.

Freddy Loix and Mitsubishi should qualify.
27th October 2018, 08:25
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by krissucool

Has anyone ever seen such a mismatch? Markko Märtin and Peugeot was pretty bad but this is crazy.

He's been fast on slow-to-medium-fast gravel and snow though.
27th October 2018, 08:25
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

Freddy Loix and Mitsubishi should qualify.

Anyone else than Tommi Mäkinen and Mitsubishi. Also, Tommi Mäkinen and Subaru
27th October 2018, 08:26
krissucool

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

He's been fast on slow-to-medium-fast gravel and snow though.

Yes, I was thinking about asphalt only.
Since we know he should not be a slow driver on tarmac.
27th October 2018, 08:26
mknight

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Yeah, and then again Mikkelsen was second in Germany last year on Citroen. Some drivers and cars just don't match.

Mikkelsen's pace on tarmac in I20 is terrible so far yes. What I meant to say is that there i no guarantee Kopecky would do well. Mikkelsen is the only driver other than long time Hyundai drivers that drove the I20.

Also his style on tarmac is not very special, Ogier drives the same (that's where Mikkelsen learned it from). It's more Sordo and Neuville style tha is special. Sordo looks like he is driving FWD car all the time and Neuville is sliding in almost every corner.
27th October 2018, 08:27
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Anyone else than Tommi Mäkinen and Mitsubishi. Also, Tommi Mäkinen and Subaru

Well, actually, Richard Burns was quite fast with it (referring to Mitsubishi).
27th October 2018, 08:29
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

Well, actually, Richard Burns was quite fast with it.

True dat. Also, I almost wrote "Tommi Mäkinen and any other car than Mitsubishi", but actually he liked the Ford Escort very much and it was his manager's choice to go to Mitsubishi for 1995 instead of going to Ford for a non-Boreham run team.

Sorry for the off-topic...
27th October 2018, 08:29
KKS

And WRC2 splits looks promissing
27th October 2018, 08:30
wrc2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by mknight

Mikkelsen's pace on tarmac in I20 is terrible so far yes. What I meant to say is that there i no guarantee Kopecky would do well. Mikkelsen is the only driver other than long time Hyundai drivers that drove the I20.

Also his style on tarmac is not very special, Ogier drives the same (that's where Mikkelsen learned it from). It's more Sordo and Neuville style tha is special. Sordo looks like he is driving FWD car all the time and Neuville is sliding in almost every corner.

Mikkelson.. honestly.. he should be dropped. He does not seem have the capacity to work out what he is doing wrong.
27th October 2018, 08:30
krissucool

Rovanperä faster then Mikkelsen
27th October 2018, 08:30
mufcAleksi

Skoda drivers faster than VW
27th October 2018, 08:31
EstWRC

Buuhjj. What a relief
27th October 2018, 08:31
mknight

Any way to find out tire choices for WRC2?
27th October 2018, 08:33
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

i dont understand why there are 3 minute gaps today...anyone can make it clear to me?

Live TV stage at first morning section without a re-group. that's why 3min I guess
27th October 2018, 08:33
KKS

Petter stopped?
27th October 2018, 08:35
mufcAleksi

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKS

Petter stopped?

splits just not working
27th October 2018, 08:36
tomhlord

Another error or 'issue' for Breen, another slow time for Mikkelsen. Patience must be running out with these two.
27th October 2018, 08:36
Rallyper

Also on Map he freezed.

Edit: Now moving.
27th October 2018, 08:36
mufcAleksi

Rovanperä into the lead, and faster than Kopecky on splits
27th October 2018, 08:37
Rallyper

Kalles pace is surprisingly fast also on tarmac. Camilli outpaced? Or tyre choice?
27th October 2018, 08:37
mknight

Both VW in Finish 20s down. But we don't know the tire choices.
27th October 2018, 08:37
krissucool

Go home Mikkelsen, you are drunk. How can he lose to R5 cars. Embarrassing.
27th October 2018, 08:39
KKS

New WRC2 rally leader
27th October 2018, 08:40
Rallyper

Skoda vs. VW 1 - 1.
27th October 2018, 08:40
mknight

Meh Pirelli beats them all ;) Feels like 2003-2004 already.
27th October 2018, 08:42
KKS

:D :D :D
https://twitter.com/fakeWRCdriver/st...83180984455168
27th October 2018, 08:42
wrc2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomhlord

Another error or 'issue' for Breen, another slow time for Mikkelsen. Patience must be running out with these two.

Breen seems to have reached his limit. when he pushes that bit extra, he makes mistakes.
27th October 2018, 08:42
dimviii

Solans faster from Rovanpera(pirellis on wet maybe)
27th October 2018, 08:42
er88

Mikkelsen getting beat by 3 R5 cars is embarrassing I'm afraid.
27th October 2018, 08:45
stefanvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Solans faster from Rovanpera(pirellis on wet maybe)

Well, he isn't exactly slow driver. Kajto is slow with same tyres.
27th October 2018, 08:47
Allez Andruet

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

Well, actually, Richard Burns was quite fast with it (referring to Mitsubishi).

As was Eriksson. But it's strange indeed how both Loix and Gardemeister (who were considered as really fast drivers before joining Mitsubishi) tarnished their reputation with that Evo VI.

Mäkinen and Subaru wasn't that bad in my opinion. Think it was more Tommi being past his prime than anything else.

But ok, back to Catalunya...
27th October 2018, 08:48
dimviii

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanvv

Well, he isn't exactly slow driver. Kajto is slow with same tyres.

who said he is a slow driver?
27th October 2018, 08:51
KKS

This stage looks more dry than SS9
27th October 2018, 08:54
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

Mäkinen and Subaru wasn't that bad in my opinion. Think it was more Tommi being past his prime than anything else.

I agree about the not bad at all -part. But I am not at all sure that Tommi was past his prime but suddenly there were more competition in terms of good drivers and cars. In 1996 just three different drivers split all the wins between them, in 1999 there already were six different winners and in 2001 whopping eight. Same is evident in manufacturers, which is even more important as not every team is able to field a winning car (and winning driver with it).

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