No, competitors START under SAME rules, not appealing to MAKE them. If some team is preferred over another, just because the former appeal, it is tendency, not justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
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No, competitors START under SAME rules, not appealing to MAKE them. If some team is preferred over another, just because the former appeal, it is tendency, not justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
No, he didn't get that time back but the time he lost behind him. Who knows, maybe he would be equal or faster to Sordo since he was 1.7 up if it didn't happen so Neuville got nothing for free in this. Use some common sense will you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
cry more...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
kid...
http://i.imgur.com/WAInzYZ.gif
These are senseless ramblings. You have no idea what you are talking about. There isn't a global motorsport conspiracy against "certain teams".Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Now take your pills before you start seeing demons or something.
You are not mechanically minded are you? It doesn't take all the mechanics to change the gearbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
In fact, they'd be mostly in each other's way.
Good night!
I'll reserve judgement on the Neuville issue until I get a better idea of what happened.
Otherwise, an interesting day:
- Meeke had another incident, I left him out of my pickems expecting a crash or problem with the car, not wishing it but it seems things are not going his way at the moment
- DMACK don't have an advantage on this rally and so Evans is a bit further back, probably a more realistic place for him
- Ogier's new Ford seems to have solved most of his problems so it's looking good for the rest of the season, he can win the championship even if he doesn't win another rally this year
- Breen consistent and relatively quick yet again on stages he hasn't driven before, if he can increase his pace just a bit to be closer to the podium he'll be a wanted driver, maybe not lead driver but definitely strong
- Neuville slower than expected but it has happened before thisyear, he will probably find some more speed tomorrow
- Paddon showed good pace for the first time this year, unlucky with car problems
- Sordo managed to avoid problems and drive well, maybe a bit unnoticed but has good chances for a podium here
- Latvala had good pace until his strange problem I think he will be in the fight for the championship until close to the end
- Hyundai and MSport are still the strongest teams, Citroen continues to not be able to get it together and Toyota = Latvala for now at least
For tomorrow it will probably be a 3-way fight between Ogier, Tanak and Neuville for the win, Sordo can fight for a podium and Breen can expect to continue as now.
Portugal - Neuville delay in overtaking Latvala. Does the wrc gps timing system get damaged in roll overs?
Rally Safe - Australia - push button - on stage overtake request alert function.
https://youtu.be/iDWseIQE42U?t=3m15s
Did his stage wins in Argentina not count as good pace? Or sitting 3rd in Mexico before engine problems? People have such short memories. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrtf1Mtzptw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvu-j8Brqkg nice corner to see every drivers technique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOe...#t=5.936996642 great quality!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVBrPjw2Q4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crbfs9CPLU
Just saw the TV footage of Kris's krash.
So unnecessary and stupid.
He has some serious pulling-himself-together to do for 2018. He can forget this season now and it is his fault at every rally but Corsica.
Such an utter disappointment.
meeke is an older version of latvala... a very fast nobody that none will remember or miss when he retires.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Ogier the old fox closed his gap to leader by 1,2 sec on the two superspecials. That is is smart driving. Who said SSS are just for show?
everyone with a functional brain...Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
so an hour left till the first stage...Tänak and Järveoja have been telling the whole week to estonian media that the SS11 Cabeceiras de Basto will be very rough...the stage was very rough and rutted already on the recce, thats the stage they are most afraid of....Järveoja saying the long 37km Amarante is actually a good one with sandy and soft surface. Meeke made a lot of time up there last year on the first pass, it cleaned a lot.
Yeah... naturally... It was a joke of a decision from the stewards. I guess from now on every single time you need to slow down due to whatever reason, you just make an appeal and you'll get some seconds back.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
they must appeal to physics neither to stewardsQuote:
Originally Posted by itix
And Paddon just "simply" late at TC to start behind Tanak )))Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Really? Or it's just a words from disappointment Nueville?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
My comment was not specifically about Tanak, I have no idea if he lost any time at all and tbh I don't care that much either.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
The point was that if they start correcting times for ~12s "delays" where does that end? Will this lead to every driver complaining about every small 10s loss due to something happening on the stage? These kind of small loses happen all the time. (car crashes, animals on road ++)
This was about Tanak, pay attention ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Tanak's onboard still not up so don't know either and he hasen't mentioned it once so probably not. He lost around 18 to Sordo, where do you get 12 from? It's good that they give time back, or else we could have a situation where a team mate could hold another driver up to help his team. Although most of the field are too nice to ever do something like that i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Animals and random things like that you can't do anything about usually, holding another driver up is something you can do something about.
The organizers of Catalunya & Australia must be prepared for a shower of requests for time compensation because of standing dust on the stages. I don't want to be on their place.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
#Tyre info - Day 2 - Morning loop
All Michelin #WRC drivers with 5 LTX Force S5 except Lefebvre with 6 S
#RallyPortugal
we expect some appeal from Hyundai cuz Paddon runs it slow Gorban dust :D
Which is the live stage on RTP today ?
Hyundai mechanics incredible, changed whole wiring loom in Haydens car in less than two hours.
I cant even change the light bulb in my girlfriends car in less than that.
12 and 15Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Agree, time lost for neuville was coused by other driver going slow. We all know latvalla didn`t do this on purpose, but teams could take disadvantage of this situation. So in that view, correct decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Hanging dust is same for everybody. Exept first on road, but that guy is just lucky at that moment
I think there are two aspects of this argument here.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
First, is Neuville's compensation fair? I think yes.
However, this should not be decided in such a way.
Stefanvv is right. This should be governed by rules, not by some rally officials.
Fore example, in similar cases the held up driver shoul receive averave time for the stage, or something in that direction.
Neuville at Latvalas dust incar
https://www.facebook.com/FanClubTNNG...9009749154168/
Great start from Evans
Go Evans
wait so Meeke isn't on superrally rules?
On superally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Tanak losing time at the end of the stage as usual.
both tanak and sordo lost a lot in the final split...
So isn't he supposed to be a road sweeper?Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
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damn Tänak, the whole weekend he is fastest in first split but then give a lot away, i dont know whats the problem, so frustrating