Cost reduction... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
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Cost reduction... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
dimviii, You see anywhere Protasov pictures from today stages?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
WRR says that he broke windscreen, and could be interesting how big it cost for visibility
"Jump Jump, Jump"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV01gOWpevk
nobody complained at today stages for spikes out of tyres.So used tyres(and not worn tyres) can t be so ''slow'' at just 7km.Mikkelsen was slower than Evans at this stage.Evans is 12th overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
That Ogier/vw played tactics in NOT bad.It doesn t minimise Ogiers excellence.Always factories will play inside the rules for their good image,to protect their No1 driver and for plenty other reasons.
Why is that so funny? :erm:Quote:
Originally Posted by ironseb
i haven t notice any photo of him.If i find i will upload it mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
One from his fb account, not showing much thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...20467601_n.jpg
Latvala :skull: :skull: :skull:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiVhFvz6UKw
I just amuses me, VW often had claimed they will not enforce any team orders, except probably for some title desisive occasion. So why all of a sudden they choose to do it here in 1st day at 2nd round (very short milleage btw), when it's clear no one can get near close to their leadership? Mikkelsen was slow on the last stage, ok, he lost no more than 5 seconds I think, because he claimed used old tyres for the reason to have more fresh for tomorrow (is it really worth to destroy 2 new tyres for these 5 seconds?). The weather will only get worse next 2 days (probably even rain) tyres are in deficit as I see already, so what is so strange, and what would bring this 1st place for Ogier for tomorrow?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
VW doesn't have No.1 driverQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Because tyre régulation is stupid since 1995 in WRC. It's like that... laughter is the best medecine.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
there is no factory team that will say ''we will play tactics'' But for their reasons will do at any cost.We ve see it plenty of times for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
because Ogier wanted,or vw do it to keep him calm.At fabia days we saw the same think with Ogier-Mikkelsen.Suddenly at last day Mikkelsen was slow again.Same team,same drivers,and without ''used'' tyres.Ogier 2 days was complaining about road position at every stage stop (without asking him something from journalists)while they were 2-3 positions near.At last day when Mikkelsen backed off,he didn t complained at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
so Mikkelsen had used tyres,and their No1 driver with ''new'' ones with 2 long days more and unpredictable conditions? With 1-2-3 for vw and 15 sec gap you would ''spoil'' the new tyres at your No 1 driver,and preserne tyres for your No3 driver?As you can see it doesn t make sense at all. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Starting order into second leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/rally-sweden ... TypeId=416
Seeing this, or the Ogier off's during Monte, copmpared to Bouffier crash at Letonia, really makes me think that VW have the world's fastest tank....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
tnx. +2 beers :)Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Looks like from co-driver side. So it did not big affect.
There was no hard ice today, lots of loose snow though. Grip doesn't come from studs only but rubber too. If the rubber is worn, then much less grip. That could be the explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Slowson have plenty of pills.Borrow from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I think all tyres are marked, and Ogier not allow use Mikkelsen tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
yes but we dont know how worn they were for each driver.Vw will not preserve tyres for Mikkelsen and spoil tyres for Ogier.It doesn t make sense,as simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
ofcoyrse.Each tyre has its bar code number.Before the rally all 28 tyres are scanned the barcodes,and they are checking them through the rally.So you can t use tyres from other driver,or a driver he has retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Prokop's off ... nice help by the fans then he's leaves them on the floor ... :eek:
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/videos/ ... l?v=153658
Citroen did that on numerous occasions for Mr. Loeb. Is that the whole problem VW to play some tactics? Because Ogier just "can't" be better than Loeb? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ogier's only ambition in 2012 with S2000 was to prepare a car for his team, so he will smash all the competition next year. I don't think a victory in S2000 would satisfy him enough, moreover - a given one. He is not Loeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I didn't said anywhere Ogier had "new" tyres. Just Mikkelsen used his old to save his "new". May be Ogier was just "better" of saving tyres :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
in case anyone haven't seen this yet: http://www.rallysweden.com/2014/02/info ... adstravet/
"There have been some changes to the program for SS 16 on Färjestadstravet Friday Evening.
Below you find the new program:
16.00 The arena opens
18.30 Start of the show
19.00 First heat WRC
20.00 Reb Bull FSX/FMX Show
20.30 Rally Sweden Historic
(The start of Rally Sweden Historic have been changed from 17.00 to 20.30)."
only pills will help you more.Sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGUdNSoUoY
I'm sorry too, didn't started all "VW played tactics" stuff, so you see Ogier is not God and everyone can beat him :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
EDIT: In fact I think if he had lost over a minute on last stage, he still would win and be happy about it. No reputation is harmed in any way I believe :D
why you begin discussions that you cant end up properly? better stay quiet, unless you are masohist.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
not this is YOUR conclusion.I said that Ogier is best driver,and that tactics doesn t minimise his capabilities AT ALL.Take your pills and calm down.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Giving Craig Breen a mention on his WRC car debut... no accidents and had trouble with a misfire, so not a bad start.
Hope he can take it to the finish and gain some priceless experience..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bfx-xq0IUAAWXLR.jpg:large
i can answer everything you ask me,but is useless for you and stefanvv.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
a week before you finish the pills inform me to sent you a new bunch.
Nope, you instist that there is some imaginable tactics Ogier to be happy that leads Mikkelsen on day 1 with 5 seconds, help me here to understand this. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
BTW if your theory is true, he would be really mad to lose 1st day from Loeb last year at France. Sorry, can't see any logic here :D
Kindergarten is somewhere else guys.
Yep, I hope we won't get bannedQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
if you manage to get out of Loeb,in conjuction with pills you will understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I'm sorry, can't continue this arguing. I really can't :) . Lets enjoy the Rally next 2 days, and may the best driver winQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
can Ogier make faster time than Mikelsen with less tyre wear than him? is he more effective than him?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
can Mikelsen say publicly "I decided to save tyres" when in fact his tyres are just finished and cant hold him in the line?
Is this Juho's first start with WRC car?
Anyone expected more from him, or it's too early to judge?
at this snow rally we dont know.If you have such an inside information i will be happy to listen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
on most occasions yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
how you know his tyres are finished?how you know his tyres are more or less worn than Ogiers? with 30km of stages between tyre change,tyres are finished? tomorrow with 58km stages between change he will compete with rims only? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon